Mwenenzi

Anyway can leave the seat assignment until after AS joins OW, so then at no additional cost

edgewood49

Been down that road in the past and at times not so easy! It's a bit of a crap shoot going into 2021 schedules equipment etc. certainly the "quality" of the experience of long haul is gone for the foreseeable future. I wonder if we will see any better availability of premium AA seats after entering OW for now and since the revised relationship its been as usual crappy no wait worst than crappy but then so is AA. Choices to Europe is limited unless one pays through the nose for "Lingus

Eastbay1K

1) I thought the proper expression was "pay out the shamrock" for EI.
2) My general thoughts "book now." If I see something I want, even if the seat and service situation isn't particular satisfying now, I'd still book it. The worst any of us are out that are MVPG or + is $25 a ticket.

edgewood49

Eastbay I love it ! I have been trying to understand for Shamrocks pricing/product/value ratio where is AS in all this? EK sure I understand. I also agree with you if the availability is there however a simply flight to London for next May to September is not there except for coach not even premium class, with the exception of a couple SFO/LAX/SJC biz on BA 787 and if anyone has flown business on BA 787 won't do it again.

kelly0522

I'm following this thread because I have Iberia flights booked. I want to ensure I get my AS number into the booking for the credits.

edgewood49

X2

NWplatinum

I have that QR deal booked to BKK in November and would move to credit it to AS. But if they don’t allow us to move the QR flights to next year, I don’t think I’ll make it. That won’t stop me from saving the tickets and sending them to Alaska at a later date.

mfolf

I'm not the only one who's afraid of AS pulling out of most mid/transcon routes and effectively becoming a west-coast feeder for American, thus forcing us to rely on AA's network outside of the a handful of single-timezone routes, am I?

ashill

I'm not concerned about it, certainly not out of SEA and PDX. AA is not likely to be a factor in a pullback in midcon/transcons out of SFO, though other factors might be. LAX could possibly be a concern, but AA has very recently more or less de-hubbed LAX. If anything, AA is pulling back to rely on AS, and none of AAdvantage, Mileage Plan, or oneworld have an interest in there not being a significant oneworld presence in those transcon routes.

AA and AS do not have and will not have antitrust immunity or revenue sharing, so AS doesn't have an incentive to push profitable customers to AA.

Standard 2020 caveat: anyone who claims to have a good idea what will happen to air travel over the next year or two has a crystal ball far better than mine. Practically anything can change due to factors way beyond AA and AS. But I don't think the AA-AS partnership is a particular threat to AS's network.

TravelingZoomer

Speaking as a SAN base, I’m confident the majority of routes will stay, if not adding more routes here. Heavy WN competition intra CA but on transcons most routes have little to no competition besides B6

ashill

JDiver notes this in the AA forum:

Hopefully that means official reciprocal status recognition is coming very soon (and in advance of oneworld membership, which is unsurprising to me).

Mauibaby2008

this is awesome! Thank you

edgewood49

I agree it appears AA is planning on relying on AS on many of these routes as they pull back theirs, as for AS travelers flying long haul international AA's reward chart sucks for even premium seats always has always will with Parker. Service long haul is equality terrible so for us AS flyers its still BA ( surcharges ) EK going around "the other way" With diminished schedules, smaller planes should prove interesting for award travel in the next few years. If I had one wish its for Parker to retire

VFR

AA needs AS to keep its FFP relevant to west coast travelers.

Alaska's award chart for long haul international flights on AA seems to mostly match AA now. 57.5k for J to Europe, 60k for J to Asia 1, 80k for F to Asia 1. Now, the AS rates on JL and CX are much better than AA's, but we'll have to see if they standardize award costs when they join oneworld.

edgewood49

While on "paper" your correct however in the real world I have rarely seen availability on AA on anything but main cabin to Europe, only once in all these years did I get F and then AA changed equipment ! In all fairness to AA and others until schedules return to some normalcy it's a gut shot to get anything but main cabin. One would think the airlines would make more space available in the upper cabins to get FF to burn points as well as just getting people on the planes. Its going to be a long slog getting international travel back up and running. I have survived war in different countries with little sanitation with little side effects but NOT taking any chances on this one.