Upcoming AS Route Cuts
#1
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Upcoming AS Route Cuts
OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN - Airliners.net
Looks like AS will be cutting SFO-FLL, SFO-MSP, LAX-MCO, SAN-MEX, and one of the two LAX-MEX flights starting this summer. Thus opening two more MEX slots for other carriers.
Looks like AS will be cutting SFO-FLL, SFO-MSP, LAX-MCO, SAN-MEX, and one of the two LAX-MEX flights starting this summer. Thus opening two more MEX slots for other carriers.
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There's a lot of non-stop competition on LAX-MCO. Looking at a Wednesday in March, +/- 1 day, AA matches Delta in frequency (9 flights over three days) but DL uses bigger aircraft: all 757-200s. UA, Frontier and JetBlue are also on the route with AS. Southwest has a direct but not non-stop.
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OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN - Airliners.net
Looks like AS will be cutting SFO-FLL, SFO-MSP, LAX-MCO, SAN-MEX, and one of the two LAX-MEX flights starting this summer. Thus opening two more MEX slots for other carriers.
Looks like AS will be cutting SFO-FLL, SFO-MSP, LAX-MCO, SAN-MEX, and one of the two LAX-MEX flights starting this summer. Thus opening two more MEX slots for other carriers.
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cutting SFO-FLL is a bit of a surprise. that route is always expensive whenever i seem to look at it. of course, this is usually at holidays so admittedly my sample is likely to be biased.
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Those were both slots AS got through the allocation process when DL/AM had to give up slots to get their JV approved.
#6
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B6 has killed them on this route since mint entered in May. SFO-FLL is now very low yielding.
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Who knows what this means. If Alaska was intent on making SFO a hub, it needs the service. Where are these planes going? Seemingly all the Paine Field planes have to come from somewhere.
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Plus we know how much AS hates serving other airlines hubs from SFO. Surprised they still have SFO-PHL..maybe theyll fix that mistake soon. ORD has been cut back to the bare minimum, and I believe theyre paring back WAS too. I guess NYC is too big for them to ignore...for now. SLC presumably stays because its in the West. I hear SEA is becoming a DL hub, but maybe it will be spared too, because West Coast.
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Sounds like SFO-FLL is a seasonal trim, and was only year round last year. It'll be back.
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VX legacy seem to shift additional capacity to FLL-SFO/LAX in the winter time when demand in other markets like BOS-SFO/LAX drop. I assume that's because demand in FLL markets stay around stable all year. And this is more of a utilization play. I guess they could keep doing that. But reality is the yields have been horrible since mint entered and that won't change. Based on how well they are doing on FLL routes, there is a very good chance B6 would add to FLL-SFO/LAX. Which would not only kill any kind of seasonal play for AS, but also probably cause AS to drop FLL-LAX.