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Old Oct 11, 2017, 11:39 am
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All Airbus operations have now ended with Alaska Airlines.

This Wiki will be updated periodically with status of former frames with new owners or sadly scrapped.

Summary of Reconfiguration Project: (see below for specific breakdown by aircraft tail number)
  • 319 - None were reconfigured due to pandemic and subsequent fleet withdrawal. All were scrapped / transferred as of June 17, 2022.
  • 320 - All but 7 aircraft were reconfigured. [F8W12Y126 -> F12W24Y114], all were withdrawn from the fleet as of January 10, 2023.
  • 321neo - All were reconfigured (7 total, 3 delivered in the new interior from Airbus, completed as of January 3, 2020). [F8W18Y159 -> F16W24Y150], all were withdrawn from the fleet as of September 30 2023,.
  • All aircraft were repainted into AS livery being complete on June 2, 2019.
Legend:
Bold indicates aircraft has been reconfigured

Airbus A319 - ALL TRANSFERRED/SCRAPPED
N521VA 521 (let there be flight) [MZJ 09/18/21 - scrapped]
N522VA 522 (the 1-year old virgin) [MZJ 10/28/21 - scrapped, you can purchase planetags of this aircraft]
N523VA 523 (contents may be under pressure) [MZJ 03/08/2022 - scrapped]
N524VA 524 (dark horse) [MCI 6/9/2022 - scrapped]
N525VA 525 (virgin & tonic) [P08 - 3/17/2022 - scrapped]
N526VA 526 (jane) [P08 - 12/13/2022 - scrapped]
N527VA 527 (tubular belle) [P08 - 06/27/2023 - scrapped]]
N528VA 528 (fog cutter) [ transferred to Braathens Interantional Airways SE-RGC]
N529VA 529 (moodlights, camera, action) [P08 - 10/21/2022 - scrapped]
N530VA 530 (gogo dancer) [MCI 6/17/2022 - scrapped]

Airbus A320 - [12 - 320s stored/awaiting to be transferred to other operators]
N361VA 361 (jersey girl) [stored GSO - 1/11/2023]
N362VA 362 (spotifly) [stored OAK 7/29, sold to ALC Feb 2021, ferried to PAE 04/29/22, transferred to Allegiant]
N363VA 363 (sky surfer) [stored OAK 8/6, sold to ALC Feb 2021, transferred to Allegiant]
N364VA 364 (lady boss) [stored GSO 4/28/2022, transferred to Allegiant]
N365VA 365 (airbnb force one) [stored GSO 3/21, sold to ALC Feb 2021, transferred to Allegiant]
N621VA 621 (air colbert) [returned to lessor GSO 11/20 - to Volotea Airlines as EC-NNZ 1/21]
N622VA 622 (california dreaming)[stored GSO 7/8 - Lease return to VCV 3/8/21 - to Allegiant 3/23/21]
N623VA 623 (three if by air) [stored GSO 6/22/20, GEG 3/23/21, SAT 4/14/21 - to Volotea 5/28/21]
N624VA 624 (fred, white & blue) [stored GSO 12/29, AMA 4/117/21, to Allegiant 5/11/21]
N625VA 625 (jefferson airplane) [stored/moved AMA 5/30/21, to Allegiant 6/16/21]
N626VA 626 (unicorn chaser) [moved to GUS, 11/28/2021, to Global X 11/28/2021]
N627VA 627 (runway angel) [moved to GUS, 11/13/2021, to Global X 11/13/2021]
N628VA 628 (entourage air)[transferred to Global X 6/15/2022]
N629VA 629 (midnight ride) [stored AMA, 12/27/2023]
N630VA 630 (superfly) [transferred to Global X]
N631VA 631 (chic mobile) [transferred to Aero K]
N632VA 632 (youtube air)[transferred to Air Canada, C-FCQD]
N633VA 633 (the tim clark express) [scrapped @ MZJ - 08/23/2022]
N634VA 634 (mach daddy) [scrapped @ MZJ 4/15]
N635VA 635 (my other ride's a spaceship) [transferred to Peluta Air Service PK-PWE - 4/14/2023]
N636VA 636 (airplane 2.0) [transferred to Canada Jetlines - C-GLJH - 7/27/2023]
N637VA 637 (an airplane named desire) [transferred to Air Canada, C-FCZF]
N638VA 638 (san francisco pride) [transferred to Peluta Air Service - PK-PWK - 10/23/2023]
N639VA 639 (air drake) [transferred to Global X - 2/16/2024 - N289GX]
N640VA 640 (refresh air) [transferred to Global X, N291GX]
N641VA 641 (dotcomsecrets air) [stored OPF - 01/19/2024]
N642VA 642 (breanna jewel) [stored GSO - 12/16/2023]
N835VA 835 (arnold) [transferred to Pegasus - LY-NVN - 6/28/2023]
N836VA 836 (spruce moose) [transferred to Aero K - HL8385 - 7/13/2023]
N837VA 837 (air vh1) [transferred to Global X - 4/23/2023]
N838VA 838 (dfw one) [transferred to Aero K - HL8386 - 6/26/2023]
N839VA 839 (myles from connemara)[transferred to Vueling - EC-OFV]
N840VA 840 (bytheway) [transferred to to Pelita Air Service, PK-PWJ]
N841VA 841 (#nerdbird) [transferred to myAirline, 9M-DAM]]
N842VA 842 (real steel) [transferred to Tunisair, [color=#000000]TS-ITC]
N843VA 843 (¡VÁmonos!) [stored SAT - 10/05/2023]
N844VA 844 (sol plane) [transferred to Tunisair, TS-ITD]
N845VA 845 (stay hungry, stay foolish) [stored GSO - 8/19/2023]
N846VA 846 (glitter girl) [stored GSO - 2/08/2024]
N847VA 847 (scarlett o'air) [transferred to Air Canada, C-FCQX]
N848VA 848 (bellapierre) [stored VCV - 11/28/2022]
N849VA 849 (fly bye baby) [stored GSO - 12/11/2023]
N851VA 851 (Friends Of Arjay Miller) [transferred to Southern Cross International - stored ZAG 9/4/2023]
N852VA 852 (safady voyager) [stored GSO - 11/19/2023]
N853VA 853 (mt. hoodie) [transferred to Air Canada, C-FCYX]
N854VA 854 (stand up flyer) [Fly with Pride special livery] [stored GSO - 4/3/2024]
N855VA 855 (screw it, let's do it) [SF Giants special livery] [stored GSO- 2/15/2024]

Airbus A320 ETOPS - All Transferred to Allegiant
N281VA 281 (pineapple express) [ferried to PAE 9/10/21, to MLB 3/16/22 - transferred to Allegiant]
N282VA 282 (judy ann) [ferried to PAE 10/1/21, to MLB 12/21/2021 - transferred to Allegiant]
N283VA 283 (chace plane) [ferried to MLB 2/3/22 - transferred to Allegiant]
N284VA 284 (rabid badger) [ferried to MLB 3/16/22 - transferred to Allegiant]
N285VA 285 (flights with benefits) [ferried to LCQ 6/29/2022 - transferred to Allegiant]
N286VA 286 (legally high) [ferried to MLB 4/20/22 - transferred to Allegiant]

Airbus A321NEO - All Transferred to American Airlines
N921VA 921 (neo kid on the block) [transferred to AA - N950XV]
N922VA 922 (frances) [transferred to AA - N951XV]
N923VA 923 (3-2-1 liftoff) [transferred to AA - N952XV]
N924VA 924 [transferred to AA - N953XV]
N925VA 925 [transferred to AA - N954XV]
N926VA 926 (More to Love special livery) [transferred to AA - N955XV]
N927VA 927 (More to Love special livery) [transferred to AA - N956XV]
N928VA 928 [transferred to AA - N957XV]
N929VA 929 [transferred to AA - N958XV]
N930VA 930 [transferred to AA - N959XV]


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Old Jul 30, 2018, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by mrfussion
Flying LAX-OGG in late November. The seat map is currently showing Virgin America configuration for first class. I don't want to pay $1,300 pp if the plane will be reconfigured to a standard, domestic first class. Delta is at $800 pp first class and I'd rather do that if it's going to be an Alaska configuration in first. I was able to secure the lie flats coming home on Hawaiian Airlines with an excellent price of only $623 pp. But the flight over to Maui was rating out at $1,800 pp on Hawaiian Airlines for same reason so figured I'd book something else to Maui (I remember when round trip pricing for Hawaii used to be advantageous, but it appears there is no one-way premium from what I'm seeing).

Nonetheless, question for this forum, do we have any indication when the Virgin ETOP aircraft will be reconfigured? Can I rely on the seat map displaying Virgin configured first class 9 months out?
I booked myself and the missus SFO-JFK-SFO in early October and AS recently changed out to Boeing product. Why on earth AS would use the Boeing product on WESTCOAST-JFK when that route is so competitive is surprising to me (and I get the economics of the plane itself). I called and asked for a refund of my P-class ticket. No dice. I then cancelled and refunded to the bank.

Earlier this year AS talked about the Airbuses being naturals up and down the west coast and the Boeing better longer range crafts, so it looks like this realignment is going on. The thing is I don't have a problem doing a trancon in VX F, but the AS F is way less than optimal. I would feel the same way about Hawaii.

From now on I will be booking longer flights closer in, and I'll need to be flexible to get an old VX F seat. Or shop somewhere else. I also believe that AS is really going to have a problem competing against DL/AA/UL/Mint on longer flights sooner than later. The rest of the AS package keeps the majority of my business with them, but their medium and long haul F product is a major weakness.
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by jimmygottfredson
Why on earth AS would use the Boeing product on WESTCOAST-JFK when that route is so competitive is surprising to me (and I get the economics of the plane itself).
Because AS F out of SFO/LAX to JFK isn't selling, despite you buying it. It's all over their financials and statements to analysts. "Let's make less money", said no airline ever. An AS 737 has more Y seats than an ex-VX plane, and you can sell even more Y by upgrading to F. Flying a plane that costs less in fuel and has more Y seats and a denser F helps. More seats on the plane + similar or lower costs = easier to make money. Simple as that.

Originally Posted by jimmygottfredson
I also believe that AS is really going to have a problem competing against DL/AA/UL/Mint on longer flights sooner than later.
They said they're not going to try and run a transcon subfleet like DL/AA/UA/Mint a long time ago, comparatively speaking- back in 2017 (and the subject of about 57374674623 complaining threads and posts in this forum and the VX forum). So of course they're not going to be competitive and of course they're going to be bottom feeding for premium traffic business ex-California to NYC, because it's bottom feeding no matter what they do to dress it up, compared to a lie-flat. Either they find something closer to a market-clearing price for their sub-standard product or the seats fly empty (or full of upgraders on $149 fares, or award pax).

IMO they're copping out compared to B6 but B6 is based in NYC where there is a larger market for a subfleet (West Coast-Hawaii is not a great market for premium products, and B6 has better places nearby to use Mint-equipped planes aside from transcons), so it might be legitimate. I don't know the numbers.
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 2:33 pm
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I'm booked on a A320 1/15 SFO-LAX as part of a trip to Japan and this week I got a reissued ticket because the time and seat assignments changed. Went online and lo and behold, it's a retrofitted 320 seating chart with 24 rows of coach. They're really packing the seats into the new configuration.
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 3:17 pm
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Originally Posted by socalgecko
I'm booked on a A320 1/15 SFO-LAX as part of a trip to Japan and this week I got a reissued ticket because the time and seat assignments changed. Went online and lo and behold, it's a retrofitted 320 seating chart with 24 rows of coach. They're really packing the seats into the new configuration.
I'm pretty sure that is the same configuration, with the rows renumbered and three blocked seats that don't actually exist as there would be a lavatory there. The new configuration would have Y+ towards the front of the plane I'd think, rather than just changing all the exit row seats to Y+.
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 5:03 pm
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Does anyone know when the ViaSat legacy-VX planes are going to be gone? They need to get GoGo standardized ASAP.
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by socalgecko
I'm booked on a A320 1/15 SFO-LAX as part of a trip to Japan and this week I got a reissued ticket because the time and seat assignments changed. Went online and lo and behold, it's a retrofitted 320 seating chart with 24 rows of coach. They're really packing the seats into the new configuration.
They haven't converted any of the interiors to the new configs yet - this is an old config with 149 seats on an A320 - which is pretty standard. The new configs will start showing up later this fall
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 5:39 pm
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Originally Posted by socalgecko
I'm booked on a A320 1/15 SFO-LAX as part of a trip to Japan and this week I got a reissued ticket because the time and seat assignments changed. Went online and lo and behold, it's a retrofitted 320 seating chart with 24 rows of coach. They're really packing the seats into the new configuration.
Actually, compared to the old Virgin America A320 seat map on seatguru, that's almost exactly the same.
They've moved one lavatory into the aft galley, and added three seats.
So. Frankly, that's ZERO difference. A tripple replaced a lav.
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 5:56 pm
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They renumbered the rows to allow for equipment swaps. In fact this happens 2nd weekend of November.

Outbound I have 3F. Return on Monday I have 6F. Exactly the same config. 320. VX interior.
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 7:42 pm
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They needed row numbering to correspond with 737 seating rows. AS has first row main as row 6. On “old” VX map, row 3 was the first row of MCS. You will notice that it has matched exit row numbers, (16,17) with AS . Row numbers jump from 10-15 on pmVX plane. This may be one reason MVP’s are getting messed with on being charged for exit rows. On AS planes, exit row is available to MVP. On VX, it is Premium and requires an upcharge for MVP. Equipment swap can cause this. If I got switched to exit on VX, I would call in and ask kindly to have premium fee waived.
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 8:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Legend717
Actually, compared to the old Virgin America A320 seat map on seatguru, that's almost exactly the same.
They've moved one lavatory into the aft galley, and added three seats.
So. Frankly, that's ZERO difference. A tripple replaced a lav.
some of the VX A320s were delivered with one of the aft lavs moved to the galley. There are both 146 and 149 seat versions of the 320 currently flying. Unclear if AS intends to standardize the galleys across the fleet
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 12:34 am
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For those wondering, 621 (Air Colbert) flew to VCV yesterday for a repaint.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 8:12 am
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Originally Posted by brettsir
For those wondering, 621 (Air Colbert) flew to VCV yesterday for a repaint.
Gasp! Does that mean it will lose its name??
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 5:13 pm
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Gasp! Does that mean it will lose its name??
Yes. Names aren't carrying over once the aircraft is repainted. I've heard AS is "keeping track" of the Airbus names in case they decide to start naming the entire fleet sometime in the future. Doubtful.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 10:00 pm
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Originally Posted by sutrosam
Yes. Names aren't carrying over once the aircraft is repainted. I've heard AS is "keeping track" of the Airbus names in case they decide to start naming the entire fleet sometime in the future. Doubtful.
And if AS were to name its whole fleet, imagine they'd choose names more Alaskan.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 10:11 pm
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Originally Posted by sutrosam
Yes. Names aren't carrying over once the aircraft is repainted. I've heard AS is "keeping track" of the Airbus names in case they decide to start naming the entire fleet sometime in the future. Doubtful.
Oh man... THIS MUST HAPPEN! The poor 737s need some lovely names. E175s and Q400s, too. Perhaps by FT volunteers?
How about "2 if by SEA"? "LAXadaisical"? "Juneau How Fast We're Going"? "Anchorage Away"? "SANdy Beaches"? "Chester's ride"? "Motorboat" for a Q400? C'mon!
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