Oct 11, 2017, 11:39 am
Last edit by: isaacchambers
All Airbus operations have now ended with Alaska Airlines.
This Wiki will be updated periodically with status of former frames with new owners or sadly scrapped.
Summary of Reconfiguration Project: (see below for specific breakdown by aircraft tail number)
This Wiki will be updated periodically with status of former frames with new owners or sadly scrapped.
Summary of Reconfiguration Project: (see below for specific breakdown by aircraft tail number)
- 319 - None were reconfigured due to pandemic and subsequent fleet withdrawal. All were scrapped / transferred as of June 17, 2022.
- 320 - All but 7 aircraft were reconfigured. [F8W12Y126 -> F12W24Y114], all were withdrawn from the fleet as of January 10, 2023.
- 321neo - All were reconfigured (7 total, 3 delivered in the new interior from Airbus, completed as of January 3, 2020). [F8W18Y159 -> F16W24Y150], all were withdrawn from the fleet as of September 30 2023,.
- All aircraft were repainted into AS livery being complete on June 2, 2019.
Legend:
Bold indicates aircraft has been reconfigured
Airbus A319 - ALL TRANSFERRED/SCRAPPED
N521VA 521 (let there be flight) [MZJ 09/18/21 - scrapped]
N522VA 522 (the 1-year old virgin) [MZJ 10/28/21 - scrapped, you can purchase planetags of this aircraft]
N523VA 523 (contents may be under pressure) [MZJ 03/08/2022 - scrapped]
N524VA 524 (dark horse) [MCI 6/9/2022 - scrapped]
N525VA 525 (virgin & tonic) [P08 - 3/17/2022 - scrapped]
N526VA 526 (jane) [P08 - 12/13/2022 - scrapped]
N527VA 527 (tubular belle) [P08 - 06/27/2023 - scrapped]]
N528VA 528 (fog cutter) [ transferred to Braathens Interantional Airways SE-RGC]
N529VA 529 (moodlights, camera, action) [P08 - 10/21/2022 - scrapped]
N530VA 530 (gogo dancer) [MCI 6/17/2022 - scrapped]
Airbus A320 - [12 - 320s stored/awaiting to be transferred to other operators]
N361VA 361 (jersey girl) [stored GSO - 1/11/2023]
N362VA 362 (spotifly) [stored OAK 7/29, sold to ALC Feb 2021, ferried to PAE 04/29/22, transferred to Allegiant]
N363VA 363 (sky surfer) [stored OAK 8/6, sold to ALC Feb 2021, transferred to Allegiant]
N364VA 364 (lady boss) [stored GSO 4/28/2022, transferred to Allegiant]
N365VA 365 (airbnb force one) [stored GSO 3/21, sold to ALC Feb 2021, transferred to Allegiant]
N621VA 621 (air colbert) [returned to lessor GSO 11/20 - to Volotea Airlines as EC-NNZ 1/21]
N622VA 622 (california dreaming)[stored GSO 7/8 - Lease return to VCV 3/8/21 - to Allegiant 3/23/21]
Bold indicates aircraft has been reconfigured
Airbus A319 - ALL TRANSFERRED/SCRAPPED
Airbus A320 - [12 - 320s stored/awaiting to be transferred to other operators]
N629VA 629 (midnight ride) [stored AMA, 12/27/2023]
Airbus A320 ETOPS - All Transferred to Allegiant
Airbus A321NEO - All Transferred to American Airlines
Airbus A319/20/21N Reconfiguration/Retirements Tracking Thread
Nov 6, 2018, 10:14 am
#166
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On the reconfigured A320s, is Premium Class still split between bulkhead and exits, or did they rejigger it to align with the Boeings in which it's the first X rows of coach??
Of course this info is not available at the AS website
Of course this info is not available at the AS website
Last edited by Tracer_SEA; Nov 6, 2018 at 10:19 am
Nov 6, 2018, 10:44 am
#167
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The numbers in the wiki suggest it'll be just like the Boeings, but the first reconfigured Airbus has yet to emerge from GSO. And if it's anything like the PC retrofits on the 737s, they won't start selling it on those planes until a good chunk of the fleet has been converted.
Nov 6, 2018, 10:59 am
#168
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Ah, thanks. I forgot it was the 73G that was in service with the new seats and not an Airbus.
But my reason for asking: If you buy PC on the current config and select an exit row seat, and then your flight is operated by the new config... You'll probably stay in the exit row thanks to the renumbering, but it won't be PC any more.
Sounds like Airbus seat bait-and-switch may continue for a while...
But my reason for asking: If you buy PC on the current config and select an exit row seat, and then your flight is operated by the new config... You'll probably stay in the exit row thanks to the renumbering, but it won't be PC any more.
Sounds like Airbus seat bait-and-switch may continue for a while...
Nov 15, 2018, 9:42 pm
#170
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Location: SFO
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Yep, it's not as bad as it could have been. But I don't understand why they don't see a competitive threat from American, JetBlue and Delta - all 3 upped their service levels on the NY-California routes. American now flies brand new A321s with the IFEs and a simple free meal. JetBlue flies their most modern and brand new A321s with the free wifi and amazing IFEs. And Delta obviously has a great product, often flying their internationally configured A330s with the IFEs + free meal.
I must confess I bought a ticket on Alaska because it was a good deal on that day. But in the future will focus on the other 3 better options. It's like they purchased Virgin America because it has been great and known for the IFEs, the service, the seat pitch, etc.,, and decided to make it mediocre, in spite of the increasing competition. Weird.
I must confess I bought a ticket on Alaska because it was a good deal on that day. But in the future will focus on the other 3 better options. It's like they purchased Virgin America because it has been great and known for the IFEs, the service, the seat pitch, etc.,, and decided to make it mediocre, in spite of the increasing competition. Weird.
Nov 15, 2018, 9:45 pm
#171
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Moderator Note: Some off-topic discussions have been deleted. This thread is tightly focused on the rollout of repainted and converted aircraft. Comments and opinions about the new configuration may be posted in other existing threads or in a new thread.
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Nov 15, 2018, 9:48 pm
#172
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Moderator Note: Some off-topic discussions have been deleted. This thread is tightly focused on the rollout of repainted and converted aircraft. Comments and opinions about the new configuration may be posted in other existing threads or in a new thread.
dayone, AS Moderator
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Nov 16, 2018, 1:28 pm
#173
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Seattle, WA
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Is that going to be eventually rolled out to the entire fleet? If so, fantastic. Those power boxes really ruined window seats for for me
Nov 16, 2018, 10:00 pm
#174
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Given we are rolling into the very busy Thanksgiving day week, it looks like they slowed the painting of airbus fleet to 1 at a time. It has been a pretty good pace the past few months to get the planes rebranded at least on the outside.
Nov 19, 2018, 8:03 pm
#175
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 105
Here is the reconfigured/repainted a320:
Or are you saying they repainted the planes but kept the internals the same (i.e., the screens, etc.)? It is my understanding that they reconfigure and repaint all at once.
Nov 19, 2018, 8:05 pm
#176
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Are they redoing them inside at the same time, or will they still have the IFE screens and all?
Nov 19, 2018, 8:18 pm
#177
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I disagree based on the following evidence:
Here is the reconfigured/repainted a320: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQvPga758AA
Here it is flying between JFK and LAX, JFK and SFO and the other routes: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n625va
Or are you saying they repainted the planes but kept the internals the same (i.e., the screens, etc.)? It is my understanding that they reconfigure and repaint all at once.
Here is the reconfigured/repainted a320: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQvPga758AA
Here it is flying between JFK and LAX, JFK and SFO and the other routes: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n625va
Or are you saying they repainted the planes but kept the internals the same (i.e., the screens, etc.)? It is my understanding that they reconfigure and repaint all at once.
Nov 19, 2018, 8:21 pm
#178
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I still don't understand their thinking: they had a unique, wonderful product that everyone loved, and they are dismantling their competitive advantage (removing the IFE screens, making the interior mediocre, adding seats), while the competition goes in the opposite direction. The only way they will be able to compete is on price. So someone will look at the options and see Delta, JetBlue, new American A321s and they won't choose the "new" downgraded Alaska unless the prices is noticeably less. Whereas people specifically chose Virgin America because of the premium experience. That's what I think. I wish they asked me
Nov 19, 2018, 8:58 pm
#179
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Do you think they swap out seats while paint is being sprayed on? They're lengthy processes that can't be done simultaneously.
Nov 19, 2018, 11:37 pm
#180
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Thank you. I hope so, because I am flying Alaska later this week.
I still don't understand their thinking: they had a unique, wonderful product that everyone loved, and they are dismantling their competitive advantage (removing the IFE screens, making the interior mediocre, adding seats), while the competition goes in the opposite direction. The only way they will be able to compete is on price. So someone will look at the options and see Delta, JetBlue, new American A321s and they won't choose the "new" downgraded Alaska unless the prices is noticeably less. Whereas people specifically chose Virgin America because of the premium experience. That's what I think. I wish they asked me
I still don't understand their thinking: they had a unique, wonderful product that everyone loved, and they are dismantling their competitive advantage (removing the IFE screens, making the interior mediocre, adding seats), while the competition goes in the opposite direction. The only way they will be able to compete is on price. So someone will look at the options and see Delta, JetBlue, new American A321s and they won't choose the "new" downgraded Alaska unless the prices is noticeably less. Whereas people specifically chose Virgin America because of the premium experience. That's what I think. I wish they asked me
I don't think Alaska is in the business of losing money to provide you with that premium experience. James