WebTraveler

Keep in mind Frontier comes and goes in markets.

Phoenix will find some traffic.

Who the heck in Portland travels to Cleveland? Seriously, even when Cleveland was a hub airport for Continental/United we didn't have service. I can't see how there is sufficient direct traffic when there wasn't even sufficient connecting traffic for this route. Cleveland is a pit if you've ever been there.

Of all the cities I would hope for non-stop service, this is not even in the top 25.

WebTraveler

You get what you pay for. Keep that in mind. 1 flight every other day on some of these new routes is hardly enough to convince me.

Buddy did one of these lowball guys recently; told him if something goes wrong he's hosed.

Well guess what, the once a day every other day caused him grief when the first flight failed and he had problems. He wasted several days, messing up his vacation, before bagging it and buying a ticket on a real airline. He wasted several days of his vacation dinking around with these morons.

Tide_from_PAE

F9 has been flying SEA-CLE for a few months, if not longer.

I'm somewhat surprised G4 (Allegiant) hasn't started seasonal service to SEA. Its business model would work great from Montana, Oregon, California, and parts of Alaska.

WNHHTraveler

Oh OK, I know that F9 ran a seasonal route SEA-CLE last year, but I thought they had discontinued it. The title of this thread states that SEA-CLE is one of the "new" routes announced today. So, I figured that maybe they had reinstated it.

WNHHTraveler

Well, there is a glossary on here, but a lot of the terms and acronyms aren't even included in the glossary. For example, "GGU". Took me a while to figure that one out.

tusphotog

I have spent more time in Cleveland in the last 18 months than I ever imagined. It's not as bad as people like to say. It's fast becoming one of my favorite stops in the spring, summer and fall.

A few years ago, UA flew PDX-CLE. It didn't last long. F9 has a pretty big presence at that airport, though.

Orwaid

Hi -

Also, CO used to have a PDX-CLE redeye.

WebTraveler

When? I was aware of a few extra flights put on for holiday periods to handle additional east coast traffic, but nothing beyond that.

Hey, if Frontier can find a way, all power to them. But remember, Frontier comes and goes in markets. So don't plan too far ahead.

kevincrumbs

http://airlineroute.net/2013/02/25/ua-clepdx-jun13/

WebTraveler

Huh, guess I missed that 2.5 month flight.

rwinn

Cleveland doesn't seem like a pit to me. There are some really rough areas but it has big city amenities, a decent dining scene, and prices are reasonable. Cleveland also appears to be increasingly catering to visitors with the addition of a bunch of hotels including a 600 room Hilton opening later this year. I think most these hotels were under construction or announced before the RNC's decision to host the 2016 convention in Cleveland.

That said, I agree that it doesn't seem like there would be enough O&D leisure traffic between Cleveland and Portland to make the route work for Frontier. I could see Alaska making SEA-CLE work with the benefit of connecting traffic but I suspect it won't be long before Frontier makes CLE-PDX seasonal (like SEA) or before the route is cut altogether.

I do know at least one Portlander who would benefit from the Frontier flight, but I am sure she would prefer to fly Alaska even if it meant connecting in SEA.

rwinn

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WebTraveler

Good luck to Frontier.

Ohio is one state Alaska has no service to. It's a big state, but population is spread out across three cities, Cincinnati, Cleveland, and Columbus. Might be an interesting addition to add Ohio, but I just can't see it. Frontier seems to think they can make it work, so we'll see.