San Diego Lounge Access
#16
Join Date: Dec 1999
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If AS wants to attract more SAN business flyers, they need to offer a BR to be competitive. I really don't understand why they don't convert the old UC into a BR. Offering the AC in another terminal is not much of an offer.
#17
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Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
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Boston, Honolulu, Kahului-Maui, Kailua-Kona, Lihue, Orlando-International, Portland (OR) Seattle/Tacoma, Puerto Vallarta, Salt Lake City, San José del Cabo, Monterey, Santa Rosa, Mammoth Lakes, Boise, Fresno, Salt Lake City
Let's see, 4 Hawaii destinations, two Mexican resort destinations (not MEX or GDL), a seasonal ski resort, and Mickey's Corporate Office, AS hubs, and some random CA/Mountain West destinations that either WN can't serve because realistically this calls for an RJ (FAT/MRY/STS/BOI), or ones that tweak DL's nose (SLC).
Out of SAN's top domestic 10 destinations by pax volume, AS is serving ONE of them (SEA), plus SAN's top international destination (SJD). WN, by contrast, serves EIGHT of them (and they serve DAL and MDW, not DFW and ORD, so really, they serve all ten metro areas).
(Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Di...tional_Airport)
If AS were to get serious about making SAN a full on hub instead of a focus city, they'd need to start serving places like PHX and the Bay Area... but if it's all vacation spots + opportunistic adds in the network that avoid head-on collisions with WN, hard to justify an investment for a Board Room.
I don't think AS's strategy is a bad strategy at all, given that they need to hold off DL in SEA. You probably don't want to start a war on two fronts with WN out of SAN. But what AS is doing out of SAN (and SJC too) isn't a full-scale assault for business passengers yet.
#18
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Mountain Time Zone
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They're not really offering business destinations.
Boston, Honolulu, Kahului-Maui, Kailua-Kona, Lihue, Orlando-International, Portland (OR) Seattle/Tacoma, Puerto Vallarta, Salt Lake City, San José del Cabo, Monterey, Santa Rosa, Mammoth Lakes, Boise, Fresno, Salt Lake City
Let's see, 4 Hawaii destinations, two Mexican resort destinations (not MEX or GDL), a seasonal ski resort, and Mickey's Corporate Office.
Out of SAN's top domestic 10 destinations by pax volume, AS is serving ONE of them (SEA), plus SAN's top international destination (SJD). WN, by contrast, serves EIGHT of them (and they serve DAL and MDW, not DFW and ORD, so really, they serve all ten metro areas).
(Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Di...tional_Airport)
If AS were to get serious about making SAN a full on hub instead of a focus city, they'd need to start serving places like PHX and the Bay Area... but if it's all vacation spots + opportunistic adds in the network that avoid head-on collisions with WN, hard to justify an investment for a Board Room.
Boston, Honolulu, Kahului-Maui, Kailua-Kona, Lihue, Orlando-International, Portland (OR) Seattle/Tacoma, Puerto Vallarta, Salt Lake City, San José del Cabo, Monterey, Santa Rosa, Mammoth Lakes, Boise, Fresno, Salt Lake City
Let's see, 4 Hawaii destinations, two Mexican resort destinations (not MEX or GDL), a seasonal ski resort, and Mickey's Corporate Office.
Out of SAN's top domestic 10 destinations by pax volume, AS is serving ONE of them (SEA), plus SAN's top international destination (SJD). WN, by contrast, serves EIGHT of them (and they serve DAL and MDW, not DFW and ORD, so really, they serve all ten metro areas).
(Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Di...tional_Airport)
If AS were to get serious about making SAN a full on hub instead of a focus city, they'd need to start serving places like PHX and the Bay Area... but if it's all vacation spots + opportunistic adds in the network that avoid head-on collisions with WN, hard to justify an investment for a Board Room.
So I respectfully disagree for years i lived in SD ( my man office is still there) and while did not enjoy the variety of the destinations they have today, but was able to do Seattle, Portland and then co share with AA for the Bay Area. Many many businesses in SD are military or tech, so thats up and down the coast , yes ? And today I will do my meetings in SD then on to BOS or Orlando, or hop up to LAX and hit DC. I see many of the same faces every time I go back an forth.
No AS needs to get on this. On a side note I was transferring though SEA this week and had to fly out of the dreaded N gates saw the sign for the new BR, which doesn't open till 2017 your kidding me right? 2 1/2 years ? I am a construction company and THAT is a long time. poor planning
#19
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Is this the basement location?
#21
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Join Date: May 2013
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If you have not been following the second SEA boardroom sage, a temporary BR will open on the main level of the N terminal this fall (maybe since it was supposed to have been open last spring), followed by the new rooftop BR in 2017 (with another big maybe on that date). The old United Club in the basement has been taken over by the Port of Seattle to use as a construction office.
#22
Join Date: Jan 2011
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If you have not been following the second SEA boardroom sage, a temporary BR will open on the main level of the N terminal this fall (maybe since it was supposed to have been open last spring), followed by the new rooftop BR in 2017 (with another big maybe on that date). The old United Club in the basement has been taken over by the Port of Seattle to use as a construction office.
#24
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#25
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#26
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: SEA
Posts: 2,021
The temporary Board Room opens in October 2015.
#27
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 16
Do I have lounge access? which lounge?
I will be flying San - LIH (Kauai) first class on AS in Oct.
4 of us on the late morning flight. Will we be able to get into a lounge? What kind of food/drinks will be available? Where in airport is it located?
Thanks very much in advance.
4 of us on the late morning flight. Will we be able to get into a lounge? What kind of food/drinks will be available? Where in airport is it located?
Thanks very much in advance.
#28
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I actually get to PDX a little earlier than I have to sometimes just to hang out in the BR and have a snack or some pancakes....very relaxing experience before a flight....so glad SAN isn't my home airport...what a depressing airport for such a fun destination....
#29
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The subset in question is paid or award first class (not upgrade).
It is actually uncommon for first class passengers to have lounge access in the United States as part of their premium ticket (it is typically limited to itineraries in premium classes for New York-California or international travel). Alaska is one of the last USA-based airlines to include access to their lounge with paid/award first class domestic tickets.
Typically lounge access is purchased separately, or is as a result of airline alliance elite status on non-USA based airlines.
#30
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Having said all that It will be a great relief to have one there!