Step on the scales
Jun 12, 2023, 9:53 am
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Load the freight and fuel and food, etc, AFTER you load the passengers. Or before. I don't care. Those are easily known.
Jun 12, 2023, 12:56 pm
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And weighing a aircraft is not an easy thing. Most probably faster to weigh the pax. Weighing a plane is using done in a hanger and requires some expensive load cells that deal with 100s of tons.
Jun 12, 2023, 1:45 pm
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Random police weigh trucks on the side of the road all the time, can't be that hard, albeit may require some upfront setup and expense.
Jun 12, 2023, 4:35 pm
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Having watch videos etc of weighing aircraft it is a slow process. Generally only happens have a refit or paint.
Doesn't happen regularly enough for each stand to have weigh bridge. And would cost too much.
For cost, ease of use, not affecting schedule weighing pax at the gate and stuff in catering trucks is by far the best business decision and align with CAA requirements and international best practice.
Jun 12, 2023, 5:16 pm
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And planes are an order of magnitude or more heavier.
Having watch videos etc of weighing aircraft it is a slow process. Generally only happens have a refit or paint.
Doesn't happen regularly enough for each stand to have weigh bridge. And would cost too much.
For cost, ease of use, not affecting schedule weighing pax at the gate and stuff in catering trucks is by far the best business decision and align with CAA requirements and international best practice.
Having watch videos etc of weighing aircraft it is a slow process. Generally only happens have a refit or paint.
Doesn't happen regularly enough for each stand to have weigh bridge. And would cost too much.
For cost, ease of use, not affecting schedule weighing pax at the gate and stuff in catering trucks is by far the best business decision and align with CAA requirements and international best practice.
Jun 13, 2023, 4:32 pm
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Given this is a forum about aviation, wide bodies are preferable to narrow bodies.
With regard to the topic at hand, weight and balance is mission critical in aviation.
Each aircraft has it's own unique W&B chart. The basic criteria being MTOW, MLW and balance. Balance relates to fore and aft of the fulcrum.
Fly enough Dash 8 flights and you will see a pax count broken into W&B zones. Often people are moved from the front to the back.
Having accurate data is critical to W&B averages per route.
Flights to and from the Pacific Islands have heavier passengers than say to and from North America.
Here in Western Canada, flights to and from Prince George and Fort St John (oil and gas) have heavier (burly men are a thing) than say flights between Vancouver and Toronto.
Knowing this data is vital for flight planning purposes. Weight and Balance is effected, heavier loads require more fuel which in turn adds to weight.
No one is looking to shame anyone, just to keep the aircraft flying safely.
With regard to the topic at hand, weight and balance is mission critical in aviation.
Each aircraft has it's own unique W&B chart. The basic criteria being MTOW, MLW and balance. Balance relates to fore and aft of the fulcrum.
Fly enough Dash 8 flights and you will see a pax count broken into W&B zones. Often people are moved from the front to the back.
Having accurate data is critical to W&B averages per route.
Flights to and from the Pacific Islands have heavier passengers than say to and from North America.
Here in Western Canada, flights to and from Prince George and Fort St John (oil and gas) have heavier (burly men are a thing) than say flights between Vancouver and Toronto.
Knowing this data is vital for flight planning purposes. Weight and Balance is effected, heavier loads require more fuel which in turn adds to weight.
No one is looking to shame anyone, just to keep the aircraft flying safely.
Jun 13, 2023, 5:49 pm
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