Non-Airpoints FF to Airpoints Booking
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 26
Non-Airpoints FF to Airpoints Booking
Hi all
First time poster, long time reader as they say...
I have a small question with Airpoints paid bookings with Air NZ... I've got a couple of flights booked where I've paid with APDs but I'm unable to change my FF number on my bookings to my Krisflyer number. I realise I'm not going to get any points or anything, but was hopeful that my status with Singapore (currently Silver, to be upgraded to Gold soon) would count for some better seating without having to pay.
The AirNZ booking website doesn't work (shows an 'Oops' message). Any ideas?
First time poster, long time reader as they say...
I have a small question with Airpoints paid bookings with Air NZ... I've got a couple of flights booked where I've paid with APDs but I'm unable to change my FF number on my bookings to my Krisflyer number. I realise I'm not going to get any points or anything, but was hopeful that my status with Singapore (currently Silver, to be upgraded to Gold soon) would count for some better seating without having to pay.
The AirNZ booking website doesn't work (shows an 'Oops' message). Any ideas?
#4
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: WLG/BKK
Programs: TG*G, NZ*GE, QF G, Accor Gold
Posts: 10,171
Assuming OP does gain SQ*G before travelling, they should still be entitled to gain lounge access simply by showing their KrisFlyer Gold card. Or would they be turned away because the SQ*G number is missing from the booking.....?
It would be unfair IMHO if they were denied access in this circumstance (holding a NZ award ticket in Y and being *G with a partner carrier). This situation seems a perfect example of why retaining use of the FQTS field would be useful.
OP. Once attaining SQ*G, you could call Air NZ and provide your KF details, and ask for a manual allocation of a 'frequent flyer' seat(s).
It would be unfair IMHO if they were denied access in this circumstance (holding a NZ award ticket in Y and being *G with a partner carrier). This situation seems a perfect example of why retaining use of the FQTS field would be useful.
OP. Once attaining SQ*G, you could call Air NZ and provide your KF details, and ask for a manual allocation of a 'frequent flyer' seat(s).
#5
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: VA Silver, NZ Gold
Posts: 327
In my experience, you'll be out of luck... Once you pay with Airpoints you're stuck with that number on your BP.
Is it the end of the FQTV/FQTS entry fields?
Is it the end of the FQTV/FQTS entry fields?
#7
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: New Zealand
Programs: NZ*S plus various hotel programs
Posts: 945
Ask SQ if they do something similar.
#8
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: NZ*G ELT, VA-G
Posts: 3,595
I find it ridiculous that it's just a Word document which you can type up on your PC yourself. I don't know why they bother and I am sure SQ won't do such a thing.
#9
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: New Zealand (most of the time)
Programs: Air NZ Elite *G, Honors Gold, IHG Platinum Elite
Posts: 6,096
When you have pax demanding access yet systems aren't yet updated (which isn't NZ's fault) a letter seems a logical thing to be giving out.
#10
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: VA Silver, NZ Gold
Posts: 327
Could you provide the details of this SQ challenge? How did you get it and what are the terms? Cheers
#11
Ambassador: Air New Zealand
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Wellington NZ
Programs: NZ Elite, EK Gold, Qatar Gold, Amex Plat, Accor Gold, Hilton Gold
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#12
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: New Zealand
Programs: NZ Elite, QF Platinum (LTS), VA Platinum
Posts: 1,672
Slightly different but I used APD for NZ marketed but VA operated flight. To choose seating VA insisted my VA number be in the booking. I didn’t care as I wasn’t earning anything. Still able to access SYD NZ lounge with VA status but have accessed when was building status.
#13
Original Poster
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 26
This. You take three sq operated and marketed flights within 4 months of matching status (can't be reward bookings) and you get upgraded to gold for one year. I have jade Shangri-la status via Amex Platinum
#14
Original Poster
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 26
So I've finally been upgraded to krisflyer gold. I understand that the frequent flyer seating at the front of the plane is not available for seat selection unless I had gold status with air nz (which I don't).
I am flying domestically Auckland to Wellington on a cash booking next month. Krisflyer doesn't give miles for nz domestic flights so I see no advantage to using my krisflyer number - I don't need the check in baggage, may aswell accrue my pittance of status points to air nz?
Question: Is there any point in using my krisflyer number instead of my non status air nz?
Lounge access I should be able to get by showing my krisflyer status on the phone app according to star alliance rules right? Is this allowed in practice without getting the rule book out?
Thanks!
I am flying domestically Auckland to Wellington on a cash booking next month. Krisflyer doesn't give miles for nz domestic flights so I see no advantage to using my krisflyer number - I don't need the check in baggage, may aswell accrue my pittance of status points to air nz?
Question: Is there any point in using my krisflyer number instead of my non status air nz?
Lounge access I should be able to get by showing my krisflyer status on the phone app according to star alliance rules right? Is this allowed in practice without getting the rule book out?
Thanks!
#15
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: WLG/BKK
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If you enter your KF Gold ff number into the NZ booking then you’ll gain access to the ff seating, lounge access, and an extra bag ( if on a seat+bag fare or better).
FF seating on the domestic A320 provides considerably more legroom.
If you leave your non-status Air NZ number in the booking, then NZ wont allow lounge access, even if you wave your KF Gold card. I believe this is not aligned to star alliance current policy, but others hold different opinions.
FF seating on the domestic A320 provides considerably more legroom.
If you leave your non-status Air NZ number in the booking, then NZ wont allow lounge access, even if you wave your KF Gold card. I believe this is not aligned to star alliance current policy, but others hold different opinions.