Two Skyteam Bookings, One Day. Am I heading for trouble?
Mar 13, 2007, 2:59 am
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Two Skyteam Bookings, One Day. Am I heading for trouble?
Ok, I am trying to book a few days in the Russian Federation to see a friend. I thought, since it's a real pain to get visas and generally get a few days holiday time I may as well squeeze a St. Petersburg visit in there too.
Hopeful itin looks like this
LBA-AMS-SVO 13th Apr with KLM dep 0605 arr 1450 (booking 1)
SVO-LED 16th Apr with Aeroflot dep 12.50 arr 1420 (booking 2)
LED-SVO 18th Apr with Aeroflot dep 11.05 arr 12.45 (booking 2)
SVO-AMS-LBA 18th Apr with KLM dep 15.50 arr 21.15 (booking 1)
I can't book a Multi-city trip because it costs too much, so can't get the two returns on one ticket - am I asking for trouble here? Or do the new EU regulations come to my aid?
Hopeful itin looks like this
LBA-AMS-SVO 13th Apr with KLM dep 0605 arr 1450 (booking 1)
SVO-LED 16th Apr with Aeroflot dep 12.50 arr 1420 (booking 2)
LED-SVO 18th Apr with Aeroflot dep 11.05 arr 12.45 (booking 2)
SVO-AMS-LBA 18th Apr with KLM dep 15.50 arr 21.15 (booking 1)
I can't book a Multi-city trip because it costs too much, so can't get the two returns on one ticket - am I asking for trouble here? Or do the new EU regulations come to my aid?
Mar 13, 2007, 3:11 am
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Travel insurance may help in case things go wrong, but I would contact them to see if a misconnect is covered in this case.
BTW: EU regulations do not matter in this case IMHO.
Mar 13, 2007, 4:29 am
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I don't think your SU flight is likely to be late but to make sure you might as well cancel your booking 2 and take the overnight train between Moscow and StPete. Trains in Russia run to the minute (OK, I was on one that was two minutes late but well...), you save on your hotel bill and whenever your train arrives in Moscow, you've still a few hours to get to SVO for the KL flight. (Most overnight train arrive around 7-10 am). Granted, it's a minor PITA to have to get to SVO from the railway station as opposed to flying in from LED...
Mar 13, 2007, 6:18 am
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I just don't get it. Why are people so pessimistic these days?! Why do you automaticall assume something WILL go wrong?! 
Relax. Chances are it will be OK and you have a 3 hour connecting time anyway so even if your flight is delayed by, say an hour, you should still be able to make your connection. BTW, since all flights are ST (even if on separate bookings), do ask SU if they can check you all the way through from LED. Alternatively, use KL's online check-in or just walk to the KL check in desks at LED and ask them to check you in for your SVO-AMS-LBA flight (I believe it will be easier if you have no checked luggage).
Relax. Chances are it will be OK and you have a 3 hour connecting time anyway so even if your flight is delayed by, say an hour, you should still be able to make your connection. BTW, since all flights are ST (even if on separate bookings), do ask SU if they can check you all the way through from LED. Alternatively, use KL's online check-in or just walk to the KL check in desks at LED and ask them to check you in for your SVO-AMS-LBA flight (I believe it will be easier if you have no checked luggage).
Mar 13, 2007, 7:25 am
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I just don't get it. Why are people so pessimistic these days?! Why do you automaticall assume something WILL go wrong?! Relax. Chances are it will be OK and you have a 3 hour connecting time anyway so even if your flight is delayed by, say an hour, you should still be able to make your connection. BTW, since all flights are ST (even if on separate bookings), do ask SU if they can check you all the way through from LED. Alternatively, use KL's online check-in or just walk to the KL check in desks at LED and ask them to check you in for your SVO-AMS-LBA flight (I believe it will be easier if you have no checked luggage).
Relax. Chances are it will be OK and you have a 3 hour connecting time anyway so even if your flight is delayed by, say an hour, you should still be able to make your connection. BTW, since all flights are ST (even if on separate bookings), do ask SU if they can check you all the way through from LED. Alternatively, use KL's online check-in or just walk to the KL check in desks at LED and ask them to check you in for your SVO-AMS-LBA flight (I believe it will be easier if you have no checked luggage).Hand-baggage only is now no-longer possible, unless you fancy locating some contact lens solution, toothpaste & deodourant on a Friday afternoon in Russia
Mar 13, 2007, 7:47 am
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Can't vouch for the contact lens solution as I don't use any but the rest is widely available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. (And if we're talking about hand luggage on your LED-SVO flight - they couldn't care less about your contact lense solution and the toothpaste, you can take it all onboard)
Mar 13, 2007, 8:29 am
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Can't vouch for the contact lens solution as I don't use any but the rest is widely available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. (And if we're talking about hand luggage on your LED-SVO flight - they couldn't care less about your contact lense solution and the toothpaste, you can take it all onboard)
As a secondary point - weren't Tulov's WWII bombers? Or am i confused
Mar 13, 2007, 8:44 am
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Ehm, I travel with hand luggage all the time. You're allowed up to 10 items of 100ml each so just get some smaller bottles, make sure you have them in a transparent plastic bag and you'll be fine.
Mar 13, 2007, 12:00 pm
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Mar 13, 2007, 12:43 pm
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Just checked in Amadeus, the KL fare can be combined with the SU fare - so it can easily be done on one single ticket, thus guaranteeing that the airline(s) have to protect you in the event of a misconnect.
Mar 13, 2007, 1:06 pm
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Yes, but I think he's worried about catching his SVO-AMS-LBA flight if the LED-SVO one is late so there are definitely liquid restrictions there.
Mar 13, 2007, 2:59 pm
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As far as I know some rock-bottom fares are not combinable between airlines, it really depends on the conditions of each fare.
Mar 13, 2007, 4:10 pm
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Mar 14, 2007, 4:05 am
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Thanks rcs85551!
I finally got through to someone at KLM
They can put the KL and SU flights on the same booking with the Rock-bottom (Take-off) Fare.
341.80 all-in, which considering 236.80 LBA-AMS-SVO and E139.00 (~94) SVO-LED isn't soo bad.
6 Skyteam segments more towards status, but screwed on miles (damn those 25% fares
)
I finally got through to someone at KLM
They can put the KL and SU flights on the same booking with the Rock-bottom (Take-off) Fare.
341.80 all-in, which considering 236.80 LBA-AMS-SVO and E139.00 (~94) SVO-LED isn't soo bad.
6 Skyteam segments more towards status, but screwed on miles (damn those 25% fares
)