End of Business Class on AF domestic flights from/to ORY
Jan 15, 2021, 4:33 pm
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End of Business Class on AF domestic flights from/to ORY
Cost cutting mesures put in place on domestic flights reduced the service to zero in Y and J, making no difference any more between the 2 classes except the empty middle seat.
As a consequence, J class will not exist any more starting from March 28th.
Flights from/to CDG will still be sold with a J class
As a consequence, J class will not exist any more starting from March 28th.
Flights from/to CDG will still be sold with a J class
Jan 15, 2021, 4:51 pm
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The disappearance of J service from ORY-based flights (and other short-distance intra-European fights) was already discussed in the on board service changes thread (see, in particular, this post) but the wider issue of the future of business class on ORY-based and possibly (other domestic and) European flights probably deserves its own separate thread.
Jan 16, 2021, 6:11 am
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I do wonder if Europe flights such as the one to MAD will have J once/if they return.
Jan 16, 2021, 7:00 am
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Given the low level of J service, bringing back the front row to Y price tag would be a welcome move for price-sensitive FF (many companies having policies against booking domestic J tickets).
Jan 16, 2021, 8:23 am
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Jan 16, 2021, 8:38 am
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At best we got a bag of cookies. At worst, during what seems to be the new normal, 2 glasses of water instead of 1 in Y.
The main perk of sitting in J was having the privilege of hearing and smelling the crew having lunch. Honestly I would have felt less cheated if my boarding pass didn't read BUSINESS in uppercase.
Jan 17, 2021, 5:21 am
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Jan 17, 2021, 6:49 am
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Be that as it may, I do not think that we can assume that the short and medium-haul product will return back to what it was before covid19 once the storm is over. Many airlines lived for a long time with a Y-only product on domestics, notwithstanding transfer pax, and some also replaced their former short/medium haul J product by a Y+ one. It is far too early to guess what post-covid19 passenger air transport will look like but I don't think that a move towards a reduction of J on short/medium haul across the industry can be completely ruled out.