AF258 CDG-SGN 01NOV denied entering Russian airspace
Nov 7, 2018, 8:53 pm
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There are so many semi-independent baronies and duchies at AF plus informal but powerful networks. Hard to control.
As Ben Smith suggests, two such incident in less than three months is not good.
As Ben Smith suggests, two such incident in less than three months is not good.
Nov 13, 2018, 3:27 am
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Anyhow, a flight plan is made before departure and filed with applicable ATC's in the system (as mentioned above by several others).
Still, any circumstances enroute (also this one) can force to a new/updated/changed flightplan, even a whole part of the route. The flight plan can then be uploaded to the flight crew by ACARS and be loaded in the Flight Management System. Of course, fuel calculations and route/weather/crew duty hours/technical state of the aircraft/ETOPS all play a role, so one of these might have been the trigger to return to CDG. Otherwise, I am pretty sure any large airline would try to re-plan the flight and let it continue.
Still, any circumstances enroute (also this one) can force to a new/updated/changed flightplan, even a whole part of the route. The flight plan can then be uploaded to the flight crew by ACARS and be loaded in the Flight Management System. Of course, fuel calculations and route/weather/crew duty hours/technical state of the aircraft/ETOPS all play a role, so one of these might have been the trigger to return to CDG. Otherwise, I am pretty sure any large airline would try to re-plan the flight and let it continue.
Nov 13, 2018, 4:29 am
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A sloppy airline getting sloppier.
I was on this flight in January. It took them 60 minutes to get the baggage to the terminal. This in a airport than maybe had two other planes at the same time.
They have become a joke.
I'm flying Air China this Christmas.
I was on this flight in January. It took them 60 minutes to get the baggage to the terminal. This in a airport than maybe had two other planes at the same time.
They have become a joke.
I'm flying Air China this Christmas.
Nov 14, 2018, 7:35 pm
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Come on! Re the bagage delivery: blame the handling company before the airline (although it is possible for AF to subcontract with a more efficient handler).
Nov 15, 2018, 2:08 am
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And any airline there is dependent on airport bagage handlers.