Why does Air Canada.... ?
Apr 15, 2009, 3:14 pm
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Why does Air Canada.... ?
Not offer there SE client upgrades that are complimentary when business class is empty?
I was recently traveling on a flight and I requested the upgrade. After checking my ticket type the agent and I realized it was not worth using the Special System wide certificate for the 2 hour flight.
Once on the flight there was 1 client in business class. Does it hurt them to show that their loyal clients they are worth something? Most U.S. based airlines offer the automatic upgrade to their bigger frequent fliers.
Just my .02$ worth.
I was recently traveling on a flight and I requested the upgrade. After checking my ticket type the agent and I realized it was not worth using the Special System wide certificate for the 2 hour flight.
Once on the flight there was 1 client in business class. Does it hurt them to show that their loyal clients they are worth something? Most U.S. based airlines offer the automatic upgrade to their bigger frequent fliers.
Just my .02$ worth.
Apr 15, 2009, 3:21 pm
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Apr 15, 2009, 3:23 pm
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Not offer there SE client upgrades that are complimentary when business class is empty?
I was recently traveling on a flight and I requested the upgrade. After checking my ticket type the agent and I realized it was not worth using the Special System wide certificate for the 2 hour flight.
Once on the flight there was 1 client in business class. Does it hurt them to show that their loyal clients they are worth something? Most U.S. based airlines offer the automatic upgrade to their bigger frequent fliers.
Just my .02$ worth.
I was recently traveling on a flight and I requested the upgrade. After checking my ticket type the agent and I realized it was not worth using the Special System wide certificate for the 2 hour flight.
Once on the flight there was 1 client in business class. Does it hurt them to show that their loyal clients they are worth something? Most U.S. based airlines offer the automatic upgrade to their bigger frequent fliers.
Just my .02$ worth.
If AC gives J away for free, who's going to pay? You have certs for this. If you want a confirmed upgrade, use your SWUs and pay for a Latitude fare. I think what you want instead is unlimited SSWUs as an SE. Not going to happen.
Apr 15, 2009, 3:33 pm
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Apr 15, 2009, 3:37 pm
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Apr 15, 2009, 4:40 pm
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Other than the larger seat, and a little bit of free alcohol and a meal that's comparable to something you could buy in a box at the airport for $10, the only other benefit of travelling in the J cabin these days is the fact that its relatively empty and secluded, with plenty of empty seats and space to move around.
Fill it up with SE's on comp upgrades, and the cabin completely loses another chunk of its value.
That's why non-rev or reduced revenue passengers should be kept out of J as much as possible.
Fill it up with SE's on comp upgrades, and the cabin completely loses another chunk of its value.
That's why non-rev or reduced revenue passengers should be kept out of J as much as possible.
Apr 15, 2009, 5:05 pm
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Hack67. welcome to Flyertalk!
Lots of us have asked the question before. No real answer? other than if AC gives it why would we buy it. Also its valid they need it for deadheading crews, they can't sit in a regular customer seat
Lots of us have asked the question before. No real answer? other than if AC gives it why would we buy it. Also its valid they need it for deadheading crews, they can't sit in a regular customer seat
Apr 15, 2009, 5:08 pm
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Apr 15, 2009, 6:12 pm
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AC did do this for a short while, years ago, in the Western triangle. Routes between YVR/YEG/YYC were auto-upgraded for E's and SE's. Not sure about P's.
Two sides of the coin. If they gave away free upgrades, who has more priority? An SE who paid a Tango fare, an E who paid Tango+, or a P who paid for a Lat?
No, I prefer AC stick to the rules, so everyone gets treated fairly.
Two sides of the coin. If they gave away free upgrades, who has more priority? An SE who paid a Tango fare, an E who paid Tango+, or a P who paid for a Lat?
No, I prefer AC stick to the rules, so everyone gets treated fairly.
Apr 15, 2009, 6:13 pm
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Geez, people are harsh tonight
Welcome to moody FT Hack67.
I think the basic consesious is SEs would try and and play the system to fill empty J planes with their posteriours rather than use a S/SWU.
Not that anyone would ever try and abuse the system...
ps. USAir's F is just plain terrible
Welcome to moody FT Hack67.
I think the basic consesious is SEs would try and and play the system to fill empty J planes with their posteriours rather than use a S/SWU.
Not that anyone would ever try and abuse the system...
ps. USAir's F is just plain terrible
Apr 15, 2009, 6:24 pm
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However, what might change if they were to give out upgrades left and right is that not so many people would but U/M fares in preference to fares upgradeable with SSWUs only.
The other issue of course has to do with quality of service. Which is bad enough as it is. Imagine if AC management/bean counters would get the idea that most people in J are free riders anyway...
Right now we are mere bottom feeders. :-)
Apr 15, 2009, 7:59 pm
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Apr 16, 2009, 6:01 am
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Let's go back....
I am not asking for FREE stuff.... that is the first point....
The only thing that is important is it comes down to customer service.
On a 2 hour flight, I would not be pounding the free beer or drinks...
Why not offer the open seats at the last second to your most frequent travelers.
That's it... Simple point...
I am not asking for FREE stuff.... that is the first point....
The only thing that is important is it comes down to customer service.
On a 2 hour flight, I would not be pounding the free beer or drinks...
Why not offer the open seats at the last second to your most frequent travelers.
That's it... Simple point...
Apr 16, 2009, 6:44 am
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...because then why would people ever buy J?
...because then why on any flights would most SEs buy anything other than the cheapest possible fare?
...because then why on any flights would most SEs buy anything other than the cheapest possible fare?