Apr 8, 2018, 10:40 pm
Last edit by: UA Fan
Routes that do not have fuel surcharges (YQ) when operated by carriers that normally charge YQ:
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
Please list your AP Taxes and SURCHARGES on AP reward tickets
Apr 9, 2018, 9:56 am
#2686
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,308
yup, you beat AC at their own scam!. Looks like on this route, the AC portion of YQ is $50.
This is also the case if AMS is an actual stopover not just a transfer point.
Apr 9, 2018, 3:09 pm
#2691
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 154
From your earlier post, I believe you are flying TPE-YVR and then YVR-TPE, so you're looking to rebook into a new non-stop TPE-YYZ BR36 flight (with $100 change fee, correct)? Well, based on these other recent posts that mention low/no YQ for direct flight from TPE to Canada on AC, consider looking for AC instead of BR?
Apr 9, 2018, 9:30 pm
#2692
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: YYC
Programs: A3, AC
Posts: 140
If I read this right, $191 of that was YQ. Looks like NH might have charged me some YQ.
18APR18YYC AC X/TYO NH SIN R0.00SQ TPE R0.00BR X/YVR AC YYC
R0.00CAD0.00 END ROE1.00 PD12.00SW5.90OI191.30YQ30.00YR5.80OP
21.20TW30.00SQ1.50XG25.91CA18.80SG7.60OO
18APR18YYC AC X/TYO NH SIN R0.00SQ TPE R0.00BR X/YVR AC YYC
R0.00CAD0.00 END ROE1.00 PD12.00SW5.90OI191.30YQ30.00YR5.80OP
21.20TW30.00SQ1.50XG25.91CA18.80SG7.60OO
Apr 14, 2018, 4:51 pm
#2693
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: YYC
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Fairmont Plat, IHG Spire, SPG Gold, WS Gold, Hertz PC, National E Elite,
Posts: 2,768
Booked for the in laws. I felt ashamed when I was told the taxes and fees, but they didn't want to route through the US and EVA Air from YVR wasn't available, so AC metal both ways over the Pacific was my only choice out of YVR. Then, I didn't have much choice getting to SYD, as they didn't want to be on the Chinese airlines, so my only available option was THAI which killed me on fees.
October-December 2018:
YLW - YVR AC Y
YVR - ICN AC J
STOP
ICN - BKK TG J
BKK - SYD TG J
TURN
SYD - BKK TG J
BKK - SGN TG J
STOP
SGN - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR - AC J
YVR - YLW AC Y
Total fees: $1287.00 + $30 booking fee, per person.
October-December 2018:
YLW - YVR AC Y
YVR - ICN AC J
STOP
ICN - BKK TG J
BKK - SYD TG J
TURN
SYD - BKK TG J
BKK - SGN TG J
STOP
SGN - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR - AC J
YVR - YLW AC Y
Total fees: $1287.00 + $30 booking fee, per person.
Apr 14, 2018, 5:29 pm
#2694
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
Booked for the in laws. I felt ashamed when I was told the taxes and fees, but they didn't want to route through the US and EVA Air from YVR wasn't available, so AC metal both ways over the Pacific was my only choice out of YVR. Then, I didn't have much choice getting to SYD, as they didn't want to be on the Chinese airlines, so my only available option was THAI which killed me on fees.
October-December 2018:
YLW - YVR AC Y
YVR - ICN AC J
STOP
ICN - BKK TG J
BKK - SYD TG J
TURN
SYD - BKK TG J
BKK - SGN TG J
STOP
SGN - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR - AC J
YVR - YLW AC Y
Total fees: $1287.00 + $30 booking fee, per person.
October-December 2018:
YLW - YVR AC Y
YVR - ICN AC J
STOP
ICN - BKK TG J
BKK - SYD TG J
TURN
SYD - BKK TG J
BKK - SGN TG J
STOP
SGN - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR - AC J
YVR - YLW AC Y
Total fees: $1287.00 + $30 booking fee, per person.
If you did, and they still chose YQ, then so be it :P
I know some people are just impossible to convince. I'd take EVA/BR anyday over AC or TG, it is not really "China-based" airlines, and MILLIONS have fly them
Apr 14, 2018, 5:35 pm
#2695
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: トロント
Programs: IHG Gold
Posts: 4,820
Booked for the in laws. I felt ashamed when I was told the taxes and fees, but they didn't want to route through the US and EVA Air from YVR wasn't available, so AC metal both ways over the Pacific was my only choice out of YVR. Then, I didn't have much choice getting to SYD, as they didn't want to be on the Chinese airlines, so my only available option was THAI which killed me on fees.
October-December 2018:
YLW - YVR AC Y
YVR - ICN AC J
STOP
ICN - BKK TG J
BKK - SYD TG J
TURN
SYD - BKK TG J
BKK - SGN TG J
STOP
SGN - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR - AC J
YVR - YLW AC Y
Total fees: $1287.00 + $30 booking fee, per person.
October-December 2018:
YLW - YVR AC Y
YVR - ICN AC J
STOP
ICN - BKK TG J
BKK - SYD TG J
TURN
SYD - BKK TG J
BKK - SGN TG J
STOP
SGN - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR - AC J
YVR - YLW AC Y
Total fees: $1287.00 + $30 booking fee, per person.
Apr 14, 2018, 11:35 pm
#2697
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: YYC
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Fairmont Plat, IHG Spire, SPG Gold, WS Gold, Hertz PC, National E Elite,
Posts: 2,768
Brutal fees... I have booked several trips from YYZ to both SIN and HKG and Perth (and return) and fees were under $220 per person. That's a savings of over 2 grand for a couple over those fees, and I know I will enjoy EVA flights a lot more than I would on AC/OZ/TG.. True, I won't be going to SYD, but I figure Perth..what the heck, it's still Australia.
and no SQ available from ICN to SYD unfortunately. Their choice . They wanted exact dates and convenience over low fees
Apr 15, 2018, 8:45 am
#2699
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE 2MM; UA MP Premier Silver; Marriott Bonvoy LT Titanium Elite; Radisson; Avis PC
Posts: 35,255
Booked for the in laws. I felt ashamed when I was told the taxes and fees, but they didn't want to route through the US and EVA Air from YVR wasn't available, so AC metal both ways over the Pacific was my only choice out of YVR. Then, I didn't have much choice getting to SYD, as they didn't want to be on the Chinese airlines, so my only available option was THAI which killed me on fees.
October-December 2018:
YLW - YVR AC Y
YVR - ICN AC J
STOP
ICN - BKK TG J
BKK - SYD TG J
TURN
SYD - BKK TG J
BKK - SGN TG J
STOP
SGN - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR - AC J
YVR - YLW AC Y
Total fees: $1287.00 + $30 booking fee, per person.
October-December 2018:
YLW - YVR AC Y
YVR - ICN AC J
STOP
ICN - BKK TG J
BKK - SYD TG J
TURN
SYD - BKK TG J
BKK - SGN TG J
STOP
SGN - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR - AC J
YVR - YLW AC Y
Total fees: $1287.00 + $30 booking fee, per person.
😭But yeah, it's for the in-laws, so whatever works.
May 19, 2018, 8:49 pm
#2700
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: YYZ
Posts: 648
Tried to find 5 seats in J on low YQ, but it's almost impossible for the March break 2019 period. So ended up with this itinerary:
YYZ-HND AC - 5J (stopover)
NRT-BKK TG - 2F/3J (<24 hrs)
BKK-HAN TG - 5J (destination)
SGN-PEK CA - 5J (open jaw)
PEK-LHR CA - 2F/5J (<24 hrs)
LHR-YYZ AC - 5J
Scamcharges: 926.56 + booking fee per person
Getting 5 seats limits a lot of options.
I will monitor to see if other airlines opens up and switch... hopefully will get lower scamcharges compared to the change fees.
Any other suggestions?
YYZ-HND AC - 5J (stopover)
NRT-BKK TG - 2F/3J (<24 hrs)
BKK-HAN TG - 5J (destination)
SGN-PEK CA - 5J (open jaw)
PEK-LHR CA - 2F/5J (<24 hrs)
LHR-YYZ AC - 5J
Scamcharges: 926.56 + booking fee per person
Getting 5 seats limits a lot of options.I will monitor to see if other airlines opens up and switch... hopefully will get lower scamcharges compared to the change fees.
Any other suggestions?