Apr 8, 2018, 10:40 pm
Last edit by: UA Fan
Routes that do not have fuel surcharges (YQ) when operated by carriers that normally charge YQ:
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
Please list your AP Taxes and SURCHARGES on AP reward tickets
Mar 6, 2013, 1:06 pm
#1006
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,309
Mar 6, 2013, 2:59 pm
#1008
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YEG
Posts: 186
Here is a breakdown of fees for the entire trip:
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee$5.20
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge$25.91
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax$3.12
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee$24.00
Turkey International Airport Service Charge$15.40
U.S. International Transportation Tax$35.40
U.S Agriculture Fee$10.20
U.S Passenger Facility Charge$4.60
U.S.A Immigration User Fee$14.40
U.S. Customs User Fee$11.40
Nav Canada - Air Navigation Services$30.00
Total per passenger$179.63
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee$5.20
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge$25.91
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax$3.12
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee$24.00
Turkey International Airport Service Charge$15.40
U.S. International Transportation Tax$35.40
U.S Agriculture Fee$10.20
U.S Passenger Facility Charge$4.60
U.S.A Immigration User Fee$14.40
U.S. Customs User Fee$11.40
Nav Canada - Air Navigation Services$30.00
Total per passenger$179.63
Mar 8, 2013, 12:37 pm
#1009
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: LHR
Programs: CX GO, BA Gold, OZ*G, IHG Spire RA
Posts: 316
HKG>BKK TG F
BKK>ZRH TG F
ZRH>BKK TG F
BKK>HKG TG F
Looking forward to checking out F on the 380 on the last flight.
Mar 11, 2013, 6:42 am
#1012
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: YYT, YVR, BNE, LON
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold
Posts: 320
AC SFO-YVR-YYZ-YYT
AC YYT-YYZ-YVR
Booked under multi-city for 25,000 in Y.
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee$2.60
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge$7.48
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax$3.64
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee$28.00
U.S. International Transportation Tax$18.20
U.S Passenger Facility Charge$4.80
Fuel Surcharge$27.00
Nav Canada - Air Navigation Services$7.50
Total per passenger$99.22
I've never paid less than $100 for a return AP flight before. Let's cross our fingers to see how this upgrading X class thing works out.
AC YYT-YYZ-YVR
Booked under multi-city for 25,000 in Y.
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee$2.60
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge$7.48
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax$3.64
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee$28.00
U.S. International Transportation Tax$18.20
U.S Passenger Facility Charge$4.80
Fuel Surcharge$27.00
Nav Canada - Air Navigation Services$7.50
Total per passenger$99.22
I've never paid less than $100 for a return AP flight before. Let's cross our fingers to see how this upgrading X class thing works out.
Mar 12, 2013, 8:47 am
#1014
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YUL
Programs: AC SE (*A Gold), Bonvoy Platinum Elite, Hilton Gold, Amex Platinum / AP Reserve, NEXUS, Global Entry
Posts: 5,691
YUL-YVR on 28JUN13
YYC-YUL on 07JUL13
Both booked in Y on AC
Aeroplan Flight Reward
14.25 Canada Security Charge (CA)
54.00 Carrier Admin. Service Charge (YQ)
104.95 Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges *for ClassicFlight
172.20 Total
YYC-YUL on 07JUL13
Both booked in Y on AC
Aeroplan Flight Reward
14.25 Canada Security Charge (CA)
54.00 Carrier Admin. Service Charge (YQ)
104.95 Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges *for ClassicFlight
172.20 Total
Mar 12, 2013, 9:29 am
#1015
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan, 50K Altitude, Nexus
Posts: 339
I am trying to research first reward ticket, just about to cross the 80K mark in points (will happen next week after yyz-yvr trip, with flight/hotel/car/CC expenses).
Want to do YYZ-SYD but fees are close to $1000 Feb 2014, I can book a flight for $1700 (through AC/Air pacific) might just pay out the cash and save points for something better. Is there a reason I don't see any United flights?
Want to do YYZ-SYD but fees are close to $1000 Feb 2014, I can book a flight for $1700 (through AC/Air pacific) might just pay out the cash and save points for something better. Is there a reason I don't see any United flights?
Mar 12, 2013, 10:13 am
#1016
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: YVR/YYD/ZRH
Programs: AC, UA, DL, BA, SPG
Posts: 129
I am trying to research first reward ticket, just about to cross the 80K mark in points (will happen next week after yyz-yvr trip, with flight/hotel/car/CC expenses).
Want to do YYZ-SYD but fees are close to $1000 Feb 2014, I can book a flight for $1700 (through AC/Air pacific) might just pay out the cash and save points for something better. Is there a reason I don't see any United flights?
Want to do YYZ-SYD but fees are close to $1000 Feb 2014, I can book a flight for $1700 (through AC/Air pacific) might just pay out the cash and save points for something better. Is there a reason I don't see any United flights?
Mar 12, 2013, 10:28 am
#1017
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan, 50K Altitude, Nexus
Posts: 339
You can check United's availability on united.ca, select your dates and choose award travel (Saver award inventory is what you can usually book on aeroplan.ca or by calling aeroplan). There is not much inventory for Feb 2014, I think it's too far ahead; there might be more inventory available down the road. $1000 in fees on a $1700 cash ticket is not worth it, imo.
Next year I have 5 weeks off work because I did 8 days of 16 vacation in 2012 and probably only 2 of my 3 this year and we can't carry more than 2 years.
Do I actually need to book through United's site? It is prompting me for a united account # (which I don't have), or just call up AC and tell them this is what I want to do and pay the fee. I am probably not going to book for a month or two so have time to weigh some options. Any opinions are welcome, looking to go for about 2 weeks. May do a 2-3 day stop over somewhere else if its not too much more in points or dollars. Looks like its around $200 in fee's when going through united, so definitely will do that option.
BTW a few ppl PM'd me saying to try to save for J. Not worth it to me since I am good with a sleeping pill and Y. Being able to sleep anywhere has its perks sometimes.
Mar 12, 2013, 11:18 am
#1018
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PVR
Programs: Aeroplan, Alaska Airlines
Posts: 420
I agree if its a $700 difference I am just booking on my own and saving points.
Next year I have 5 weeks off work because I did 8 days of 16 vacation in 2012 and probably only 2 of my 3 this year and we can't carry more than 2 years.
Do I actually need to book through United's site? It is prompting me for a united account # (which I don't have), or just call up AC and tell them this is what I want to do and pay the fee. I am probably not going to book for a month or two so have time to weigh some options. Any opinions are welcome, looking to go for about 2 weeks. May do a 2-3 day stop over somewhere else if its not too much more in points or dollars. Looks like its around $200 in fee's when going through united, so definitely will do that option.
BTW a few ppl PM'd me saying to try to save for J. Not worth it to me since I am good with a sleeping pill and Y. Being able to sleep anywhere has its perks sometimes.
Next year I have 5 weeks off work because I did 8 days of 16 vacation in 2012 and probably only 2 of my 3 this year and we can't carry more than 2 years.
Do I actually need to book through United's site? It is prompting me for a united account # (which I don't have), or just call up AC and tell them this is what I want to do and pay the fee. I am probably not going to book for a month or two so have time to weigh some options. Any opinions are welcome, looking to go for about 2 weeks. May do a 2-3 day stop over somewhere else if its not too much more in points or dollars. Looks like its around $200 in fee's when going through united, so definitely will do that option.
BTW a few ppl PM'd me saying to try to save for J. Not worth it to me since I am good with a sleeping pill and Y. Being able to sleep anywhere has its perks sometimes.
I did my first mini-rtw in Y and realized after my 2nd one in J what a mistake that was. Seats, food, lounge access, IFE - many reasons why it's worth it in most people's opinions.
Mar 12, 2013, 12:15 pm
#1019
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan, 50K Altitude, Nexus
Posts: 339
You're not going to find the flights you want on the aeroplan site. You need to use other tools (united, ana, etc) to find the available award flights on non-scamcharge airlines and build your itinerary yourself. Then, you call Aeroplan and give them the dates & flight numbers and pay the $30 telephone booking fee. Not a quick process, at least not for me. I spent about 2 weeks researching the last one before I found something I wanted to book.
I did my first mini-rtw in Y and realized after my 2nd one in J what a mistake that was. Seats, food, lounge access, IFE - many reasons why it's worth it in most people's opinions.
I did my first mini-rtw in Y and realized after my 2nd one in J what a mistake that was. Seats, food, lounge access, IFE - many reasons why it's worth it in most people's opinions.
Keep in mind the only long hauls I have done is to Paris, Barcelona, London and they have all been on Air transit. I'm only 25 and good with going cheap for a little while longer. I am just getting a lot of points now as I travel more and more for work so rather save them for multiple trips rather than dump than on one.
Next year for example I want to do Australia, Istanbul and Rio/sao paulo that's a lot of points needed. I am also exploring putting in stops along the way if time permits, singapore for example is somewhere I want to go (and know someone there). I did a rough calculation, I will now be doing approx 50-60K status miles plus 30-40K in points from CC and hotels etc so probably going to pay for one of the flights out of pocket.
Mar 12, 2013, 4:38 pm
#1020
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Toronto
Programs: Altitude 35K, Nexus/GE, Amex Platinum, Priority Pass, CX Marco Polo Gold, Visa Aerogold Infinite
Posts: 40
Back in December, I booked J class YYZ - MUC return for July. Here's my itinerary and fees:
YYZ - PHL AC (E75) J
PHL - MUC US (333) J
MUC -WAW LO(E75) J
WAW-YYZ LO (788) J
Fees breakdown:
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee$2.50
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge$25.91
Germany Airport Security Charge$7.00
Germany Air Transport tax$56.00
Germany International Passenger Service Charge$24.90
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax$3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee$25.00
U.S Agriculture Fee$5.10
U.S Passenger Facility Charge$4.50
Poland Domestic&International Airport Tax$20.10
U.S.A Immigration User Fee$7.10
U.S. Customs User Fee$5.60
Fuel Surcharge$80.90
Nav Canada - Air Navigation Services$15.00
Total per passenger$282.86
Total passengers1
$282.86
I think at $282 and change, it's a great deal for a TATL on J class. 90,000 AE miles. I chose this to avoid scamcharges by flying US Airways and LOT, and to experience the B787 on the Warsaw-Toronto leg. I think I am fairly successful in the first. As for the Dreamliner....well, just have to wait and see!
YYZ - PHL AC (E75) J
PHL - MUC US (333) J
MUC -WAW LO(E75) J
WAW-YYZ LO (788) J
Fees breakdown:
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee$2.50
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge$25.91
Germany Airport Security Charge$7.00
Germany Air Transport tax$56.00
Germany International Passenger Service Charge$24.90
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax$3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee$25.00
U.S Agriculture Fee$5.10
U.S Passenger Facility Charge$4.50
Poland Domestic&International Airport Tax$20.10
U.S.A Immigration User Fee$7.10
U.S. Customs User Fee$5.60
Fuel Surcharge$80.90
Nav Canada - Air Navigation Services$15.00
Total per passenger$282.86
Total passengers1
$282.86
I think at $282 and change, it's a great deal for a TATL on J class. 90,000 AE miles. I chose this to avoid scamcharges by flying US Airways and LOT, and to experience the B787 on the Warsaw-Toronto leg. I think I am fairly successful in the first. As for the Dreamliner....well, just have to wait and see!