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TriumphS3 Jan 23, 2011 8:21 am

YYC-FRA - AC-J
FRA-ARN - LH-J
(open Jaw)
AMS-MUC - LH-J
MUC-LHR - LH-Y
LHR-YYC - AC-J

Additional Charges : $646.61CAD

Points - 80,000

RoninTech Jan 23, 2011 9:39 am


Originally Posted by TriumphS3 (Post 15716602)
YYC-FRA - AC-J
FRA-ARN - LH-J
(open Jaw)
AMS-MUC - LH-J
MUC-LHR - LH-Y
LHR-YYC - AC-J

Additional Charges : $646.61CAD

Points - 80,000

Shitake mushrooms! I believe we have a winner...

Would you be able to post the breakdown of all those surcharges TriumphS3? It should be at the bottom of the electronic itinerary they send you. I'd love to see how the cost got that high.

Going nowhere fast Jan 23, 2011 10:45 am

Booked April 2010 for travel February 2011 for my wife and myself

YVR-YYZ - AC J
YYZ-GRU - AC J
GRU-JNB - SA J
JNB-JFK - SA J
JFK-YVR - AC Y

Taxes, surcharges and airline fees per passenger:

Canada Security Charge (CA) 25.91

Canada Goods and Services Tax 1.40

Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges 205.76

Additional Charge in Canadian dollars : 30.00

Canada Goods and Services Tax 1.50


*Fare calculation:
16FEB11YVR AC YYZ0.00AC GRU0.00SA JNB0.00SA JFK0.00/-EWR AC
YVR0.00CAD0.00 END ROE1.05 XT23.00SQ157.00YQ2.58AY5.67XA
7.21XY5.67YC XF4.63JFK4.50
Additional Information:
• THE NON-REFUNDABLE AEROPLAN SERVICE FEE
• OF CAD30.00 PLUS 1.50 GST PER PASSENGER
• FOR A TOTAL OF CAD31.50
• HAS BEEN CHARGED TO YOUR CREDIT CARD.

Used 370K miles.

TriumphS3 Jan 23, 2011 3:18 pm


Originally Posted by RoninTech (Post 15716963)
Shitake mushrooms! I believe we have a winner...

Would you be able to post the breakdown of all those surcharges TriumphS3? It should be at the bottom of the electronic itinerary they send you. I'd love to see how the cost got that high.

I dislike being a winner in this case....... ;) Also, I booked the exact same flight (in Y) for myself with a TA and the taxes were $430CAD

Here is the breakdown:

Aeroplan Flight Reward
ClassicFlight
Taxes, surcharges and airline fees per passenger (age of 2 and over)
Canada Security Charge (CA) - $25.91
Canada Goods and Services Tax (GST/HST #10009-2287) (XG) - $1.10
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges *for ClassicFlight, see fare calculation below (XT) - $619.60

Additional Charge in Canadian dollars : 0.00
Total in Canadian dollars : 646.61

*Fare calculation:
10AUG11YYC AC X/FRA LH STO//AMS LH MUC M0.00LH LON M0.00AC
YYC R0.00CAD0.00 END ROE1.00 XT8.60DE43.90RA440.00YQ30.00YR
22.00SQ36.10UB19.70RN2.60VV16.70CJ

rehoult Jan 23, 2011 4:23 pm

YYZ-YYC-YYZ in Y

Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $14.25
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $16.03
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $47.00
Canada Goods And Service Tax $1.10
Fuel Surcharge $54.00
NAV Canada - Air Navigation Services $30.00

Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger $162.38

rehoult Jan 23, 2011 4:35 pm

YYC-YYZ-YYC in J

Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $14.25
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $47.00
Canada Goods And Service Tax $7.01
Fuel Surcharge $54.00
NAV Canada - Air Navigation Services $30.00

Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger $154.51

LearningToFly Jan 23, 2011 7:53 pm

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travelblond Jan 24, 2011 12:03 am

YYZ-NRT-MUC-YYZ = $568.00 in taxes.

I changed a UA award recently and instead of flying out of the US, they added $285 more for flying out of Canada.
Yes, flying out of Canada is much more expensive than the US on award tickets.

RoninTech Jan 24, 2011 7:11 am


Originally Posted by travelblond (Post 15721236)
YYZ-NRT-MUC-YYZ = $568.00 in taxes.

I changed a UA award recently and instead of flying out of the US, they added $285 more for flying out of Canada.
Yes, flying out of Canada is much more expensive than the US on award tickets.

Is that economy or business? All Air Canada?

travelblond Jan 24, 2011 8:42 am


Originally Posted by RoninTech (Post 15722345)
Is that economy or business? All Air Canada?

All business with LH and AC. 1 leg LH and 2 legs AC.

mars1982 Jan 27, 2011 9:28 am

Burning through the Aeropesos :D

YYZ-YUL (AC J)
YUL-ZRH (LX F)
ZRH-BRU (LX J)
OPEN JAW
DUS-YYZ (LH F)

100,000 points

CA 25.91
RC 3.25
XT 153.20

Two interesting things here.

1 - The aeroplan.com booking did not want to accept this routing but the call centre agent had no problem putting it through.

2- I booked a very similar ticket the other day. YYZ-DUS-CDG-Open Jaw-ZRH-YUL-YYZ. The only difference is that on this ticket there is a ZRH-BRU segment in J on LX whereas on the ticket booked two days ago there is a segment DUS-CDG in J on LH. XT on this ticket, however, is $50.00 higher.

All is good though. Avoided AC fuel surcharges as much as possible, avoided the USA and the SSSS that I would inevitably get, and also get to tag along with my wife to a conference she needs to attend :)

LearningToFly Jan 28, 2011 7:28 pm


Originally Posted by rehoult (Post 15719288)
YYC-YYZ-YYC in J

Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $14.25
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $47.00
Canada Goods And Service Tax $7.01
Fuel Surcharge $54.00
NAV Canada - Air Navigation Services $30.00

Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger $154.51

You mean your taxes were less in J than in Y?

thaidai Jan 28, 2011 10:52 pm

YYZ-YUL acJ. YUL-ZRH lxF. ZRH-MANlxJ. stop. MAN-FRAlhJ. FRA-CDGlhJ.(23hrs in Paris) CDG-BKK tgF .BKK-HKTtgJ. turn. HKT-BKKtgJ. BKK-MUCtgF. MUC-ORDlhf. ORD-YYZauJ. 120,000x2+ $575.76txs x2 +$1002 (missing miles)

jasonkevin77 Feb 2, 2011 12:41 pm

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DaveTO Feb 2, 2011 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by jasonkevin77 (Post 15788327)
YEG to Phoenix

First Class via US AIRWAYS


Aeroplan Flight Reward
ClassicFlight
Taxes, surcharges and airline fees per passenger (age of 2 and over)
Canada Security Charge (CA)
U.S Agriculture Fee (XA)
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges *for ClassicFlight, see fare calculation below (XT)
12.10
5.00
68.01
Additional Charge in Canadian dollars : 0.00
Total in Canadian dollars : 85.11


+ 60,000 AP

Yes I know, TERRIBLE redemption.
But it was either take the first class flight or do a milk run stopping in Denver or San Francisco overnight both ways. Business class @ 40,000 was not offered. I strongly dislike Aeroplan will be leaving it soon.

It gets alot better when you call up Aeroplan for a 20K refund. They have a system error that prevents you from redeeming a 40K NAmerica trip when there are only 2 classes of service (which USAir has). For some reason, it charges you the extra 20 and you have to call in to request a refund.

Enjoy your :rolleyes: first class experience on USAir. Maybe they'll let you save the plastic drink cups as a souvenir!

briantoronto Feb 2, 2011 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by jasonkevin77 (Post 15788327)
YEG to Phoenix

First Class via US AIRWAYS


Aeroplan Flight Reward
ClassicFlight
Taxes, surcharges and airline fees per passenger (age of 2 and over)
Canada Security Charge (CA)
U.S Agriculture Fee (XA)
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges *for ClassicFlight, see fare calculation below (XT)
12.10
5.00
68.01
Additional Charge in Canadian dollars : 0.00
Total in Canadian dollars : 85.11


+ 60,000 AP

Yes I know, TERRIBLE redemption.
But it was either take the first class flight or do a milk run stopping in Denver or San Francisco overnight both ways. Business class @ 40,000 was not offered. I strongly dislike Aeroplan will be leaving it soon.

Curious as to where you are moving to given you are in YEG.

Brian

jasonkevin77 Feb 2, 2011 10:08 pm

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Jebby_ca Feb 12, 2011 5:26 pm

130,000 miles

OZ J: ICN - NRT
TG F: NRT - BKK
TG F: BKK - SYD
TG F: SYD - BKK
TG
F: BKK - NRT

Australia Passenger Move Charge $47.20
Korea Passenger Service Charge $24.90
Japan - Narita Passenger Security Service Charge (Int'l) $6.00
Japan Passenger Facilities Charge $12.30
Australia International Service Charge $50.20
Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger $140.60

Not as good value as a mini-RTW in F, but it's still an awesome deal!

quickcanuck Feb 14, 2011 12:45 pm

YLW-YVR AC J
YVR-SEA AC Y
SEA-FRA LH F
FRA-BCN LH J
BCN-ZRH LX J
ZRH-BKK LX F
BKK-NRT TG F
NRT-LAX UA F
LAX-YVR UA F
YVR-YLW AC J

Canada Security Charge (CA) 25.91
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax (HST #10009-2287) (RC) 1.44
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges *for ClassicFlight, see fare calculation below (XT) 210.39
Additional Charge in Canadian dollars : 30.00
Total in Canadian dollars : 237.74

*Fare calculation:
08NOV11YLW AC YVR0.00AC SEA0.00LH FRA0.00LH BCN0.00LX
ZRH0.00LX BKK0.00TG NRT0.00UA LAX0.00UA YVR0.00AC
YLW0.00CAD0.00 END ROE1.03 XT12.00SQ80.00YQ18.39RA24.72CH
14.00TS15.00YR5.20AY11.44XA14.56XY5.72YC XF9.36SEA4.50LAX4.50

rankourabu Feb 24, 2011 4:19 pm

My dad was booking a summer ticket to Europe on Aeroplan.com

Given how sneaky the booking engine is in pushing AC first, he chose YYZ-CDG, and FRA-YYZ on AC in addition to his European connections on LO/LH.

He called me asking if $488 is the right taxes....:eek:

I laughed, and said, let me handle it, booked him on LH for 80k + $123 in taxes....

I wonder how many hundreds of suckers get scammed everyday booking TATL AC flights....


In other news, I was surprised how excellent summer availability to Europe was!

AC854 Feb 24, 2011 5:20 pm

YVR - LHR June 2011. 100k points plus $506 for a Y seat.

For a variety of reasons LH was not a viable option and the base 60k allocation had gone for the non stop.

To put the best spin on this I see the real value of the 100k points as being $1,400 (base fare before the $506 add onds)

nydad Mar 3, 2011 12:43 am


Originally Posted by Jebby_ca (Post 15853021)
TG F: NRT - BKK

How did you grab TG F class seat(s)? Wonderful!

briantoronto Mar 3, 2011 12:45 am


Originally Posted by nydad (Post 15966241)
How did you grab TG F class seat(s)? Wonderful!

TG F is pretty easy. Are you thinking SQ?

EWRTravelers Mar 3, 2011 8:40 am

EWR > DUS LH (J)
DUS > LYS LH (C)
CDG > FRA (C)
FRA > EWR (J)

100,000 Miles
Taxes: $270 (USD)

EWR LH DUS M0.00LH LYS M0.00/-PAR LH FRA M0.00LH EWR
M0.00USD0.00 END ROE1.00 PD14.00DE45.80RA61.40OY32.60US2.50AY
5.00XA7.00XY5.50YC23.10FR14.30QX54.60IZ PDXF4.50EWR4.50

+ Booking fee

DaveTO Mar 3, 2011 11:09 am


Originally Posted by AC854 (Post 15927397)
YVR - LHR June 2011. 100k points plus $506 for a Y seat.

For a variety of reasons LH was not a viable option and the base 60k allocation had gone for the non stop.

To put the best spin on this I see the real value of the 100k points as being $1,400 (base fare before the $506 add onds)

Sweet Jesus, you paid 100K miles for a Y ticket to LHR?!

rankourabu Mar 3, 2011 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by DaveTO (Post 15968828)
Sweet Jesus, you paid 100K miles for a Y ticket to LHR?!

thats 100k and $506.... even if the ticket is $1500 cash, thats below toaster value!!!! :eek:

getaround Mar 3, 2011 3:42 pm


Originally Posted by nydad (Post 15966241)

Originally Posted by Jebby_ca (Post 15853021)
TG F: NRT - BKK

How did you grab TG F class seat(s)? Wonderful!

It's quite easy on TG

LearningToFly Mar 3, 2011 4:50 pm


Originally Posted by AC854 (Post 15927397)
YVR - LHR June 2011. 100k points plus $506 for a Y seat.

For a variety of reasons LH was not a viable option and the base 60k allocation had gone for the non stop.

To put the best spin on this I see the real value of the 100k points as being $1,400 (base fare before the $506 add onds)

I suppose it was an Extra access flight reward?

kaylla334 Mar 3, 2011 8:33 pm

Just booked:
HND-BKK on TG J and
SIN-HND on NH J for 30k points + 45.06$CAD. Very easy and didn't even need to call in :D

Those seats are currently priced out at 6344.60$ on ITA:rolleyes: / :D

ll7777 Mar 3, 2011 9:22 pm

Wow - I got taken. I'm headed to Vienna for work (booked on AC). Thought it might be nice to have my wife, child (under 2) and mother-in-law tag along. Because we all wanted to fly together, I was forced to book them on the same routing. Boy was I shocked when the fees were $678 per ticket!

YOW-FRA J
FRA-VIE J
VIE-GVA J
GVA-LHR J
LHR-YOW J

Next time I fly somewhere and think I might want to have someone join, I'll fly Swiss via YUL or LH via YYZ.

beep88 Mar 3, 2011 9:38 pm

YYZ-ORD UA Y
ORD-HKG UA F
HKG-SIN UA F
SIN-FUK SQ J
FUK-NRT NH Y
NRT-ORD NH F
ORD-YYZ UA F

Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $25.91
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $25.00
U.S Immigration User Fee $14.20
U.S Agriculture Fee $10.00
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee $5.00
Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge $6.20
Singapore Aviation Levy $4.70
Singapore Passenger Service Charge $10.70
Japan - Narita Passenger Security Service Charge (Int'l) $6.00
Japan Passenger Facilities Charge $24.50
U.S Passenger Facility Charge $4.50

Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger $139.96

nydad Mar 4, 2011 4:10 am


Originally Posted by getaround (Post 15970592)
It's quite easy on TG

Thanks. As I mentioned in other threads, I am looking for three C seats, and it's pretty tough to get all three. Most dates, I see only two seats.

msat Mar 4, 2011 4:48 am

YVR-YYC AC Y
YYC-FRA LH C
FRA-CDG LH C
CDG-FRA LH C
FRA-ORD LH C
ORD-YVR UA F

$234.xx cdn

djlee Mar 21, 2011 7:01 pm

YYZ-FRA AC
FRA-MAD JK
MAD-YYZ AC

Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $25.91
Germany Airport Security Charge $9.10
Spain Departure Charge $15.30
Spanish Security Tax $3.60
Germany International Passenger Service Charge $25.20
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $25.00
Carrier Administration Service Charge $340.00 <-- What the hell is this :mad:
Nav Canada - Air Navigation Services $30.00
=====
Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger $477.36

DaveTO Mar 21, 2011 7:16 pm


Originally Posted by djlee (Post 16077080)
Carrier Administration Service Charge $340.00 <-- What the hell is this :mad:

That is your introduction into how AC makes its money off AP customers.

Welcome to FT!

In the future, if you don't mind some extra connections, you can avoid this charge by not flying on AC operated flights.

wwtsang Mar 22, 2011 1:12 am

One way reward $125.70 and 67k miles
HKG-PEK-YYZ in CA/AC J

Roundtrip reward $278.06 and 100k miles
HKG-NRT-YYZ in NH/AC J
YYZ-HKG in AC J

first time i've redeemed miles on my account, now i won't have to worry about the 2013 hoopla and finding something to redeem, then called the reservations line to get seat 6A for the AC segments

dchesterp Mar 25, 2011 10:10 am

Booked First Class MCO to FRA, Business Class FRA to BRU and the reverse on LH through Aeroplan. Total fees and taxes were $158, so for two it was $316. Tickets were 100,000 miles each.

Ichinensei Mar 25, 2011 11:26 am


Originally Posted by djlee (Post 16077080)
YYZ-FRA AC
FRA-MAD JK
MAD-YYZ AC

Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $25.91
Germany Airport Security Charge $9.10
Spain Departure Charge $15.30
Spanish Security Tax $3.60
Germany International Passenger Service Charge $25.20
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $25.00
Carrier Administration Service Charge $340.00 <-- What the hell is this :mad:
Nav Canada - Air Navigation Services $30.00
=====
Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger $477.36


I really feel sorry for you.. Last year, I paid $700a.i. for a non reward ticket to MAD

Stiff Mar 25, 2011 2:55 pm

Mrs. Stiff and I are traveling to LHR on reward seats in August. Our itin is YYZ-YHZ-LHR / LHR-YHZ-YUL-YYZ - we chose this to go business the whole way and avoid a 5-hr layover in St. Johns (directs n/a). Our fees were $674.56 each YIKES! Here's the link to the breakdown:




http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...yz-lhr-yyz.jpg

tormapleaf Mar 28, 2011 4:13 pm

LAS-YYZ
 
The purchased ticket was $600. AP ticket was 17,000 AP miles.

How can AC charge US Transportation tax on award tickets when no other carrier does?


Airport taxes, fees, and surcharges will appear on your credit card statement as
an Air Canada charge and will display your ticket number.


Adult(s)

Carrier Administration Service Charge $27.00
Nav Canada - Air Navigation Services $7.50
U.S. International Transportation Tax $15.90
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee $2.40
U.S Passenger Facility Charge $4.40
Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger $57.20
Total passengers 1 Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger type $57.20


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