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Raffles longhaul Feb 27, 2009 9:12 pm

Please list your AP Taxes and SURCHARGES on AP reward tickets
 
I would appreciate AP Members input on how much they paid for there AP reward tickets in fees and SURCHARGES.. Please list the routing, the airlines flown or to be flown and class of service and how many points the reward cost...I paid $31.50 AP service fee plus $32.75 in taxes for a grand total of $64.25.... Routing is : YVR-SEOUL-SIN-SYD-SIN-BKK-SEOUL- YVR..... SYD is my point of turnaround.... and my SIN-SYD leg shows 77W :cool: All flights are on SQ except BKK-SEOUL is on TG. All flights are in BIZ Class and cost 100,000 miles..

getaround Feb 27, 2009 10:00 pm

There was a small thread last year - Anyway mine cost alot more than yourself.

FYI if your doing some PM's from the MRF id would appreciate to be included :)

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...have-paid.html

Montreal Trudeau (YUL)Toronto Pearson (YYZ) - AC
Toronto Pearson (YYZ)Frankfurt (FRA) -AC
Frankfurt (FRA)Barcelona (BCN)- LH
Barcelona (BCN)Frankfurt (FRA)-LH
Frankfurt (FRA)Ottawa (YOW)-AC
Ottawa (YOW)Montreal Trudeau (YUL)-AC

Canada Security Charge (CA)Canada Goods and Services Tax (GST/HST #10009-2287) (XG)Combined Taxes (XT)17.001.40

Combined Taxes (XT)-$458.18 PP

So $900.00 for 2 business rewards; I just wasn't able to find any availability without AC on short notice.

Yukonprince Feb 28, 2009 1:55 am

Fredericton - Toronto Air Canada Y
Toronto - Frankfurt LH First
Frankfurt - Amsterdam LH J
Amsterdam - Munich LH J
Munich - Hon Kong LH First
Hong Kong - Seoul Asiana First
Seoul - Chicago Asiana First
Cicago - Toronto United First
Toronto - Fredericton Air Canada Y

Booked January 29, 2009

Canada Security Charge $17
GST $1
Combined taxes $185.77

Total $203.77 PLUS $30.00 + tax $3,90 = $33.90 Call Centre fee

120,000 Aeroplan points

stinger Feb 28, 2009 5:46 am

$93.75 per ticket for four YYZ-CUN in July. This is much better than the $250 per ticket I paid in the fall.

margarita girl Feb 28, 2009 6:14 am

Same for me! And the taxes charged actually match up to those on a revenue ticket.

My Aeroplan ticket:
Canada Security Charge (CA) .................................................. .....17.00
Canada Goods and Services Tax .................................................. ..1.00
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges for Classic Flight .......... 75.00
Total .................................................. ..................................... 93.00


Sample revenue ticket:
Taxes, Fees and Charges
Canada Airport Improvement Fee SQ ..............................................20.0 0
Air Travellers Security Charge (ATSC) CA ....................................... 17.00
Mexico Intl. Arpt. Departure Tax XD ............................................... 31.08
Canada Goods and Services Tax (GST/HST #10009-2287 RT0001) XG .. 1.00
Mexico Tourism Tax UK .................................................. ............ 23.72
Total .................................................. ..................................... 92.80

Stinger, what's different from your fall tickets? Presumably, the all inclusive "combined taxes" amount?

mboca28 Feb 28, 2009 9:04 am

because ac not involve just partners
 
mia-fra first class LH
fra-bkk first class THAI
sin-fra first class SN
fra-mia first class LH

100000 points x 2

all taxes and fees 278.00

we then booked

bkk-mel SN
syd-sin SN

80000 points x 2

69.00 all taxes

mboca28 Feb 28, 2009 9:06 am

fll-mia
 
fll-yyz return
3/16-3/18

92.00 total fees booked online 59000 points classic plus

yycworldtraveler Feb 28, 2009 9:43 am

YYC-SFO UA F/J
SFO-ICN OZ J
GMP-SHA OZ J
PVG-HKG FM J
HKG-BKK TG J
BKK-UTH TG J
BKK-VIE OS J
VIE-AMS OS J
AMS-FRA LH J
FRA-YYC LH J

Taxes and Fees - $98.62 plus $31.50 Call Centre Booking Fee. 100K miles X2

------------------

YYC-SFO UA F/J
SFO-NRT NH F
NRT-ICN OZ F
ICN-HKG OZ F
HKG-BKK TG F
BKK-SIN LX F
SIN-MUC LH F
MUC-FRA LH J
FRA-YYC LH F

Taxes and Fees - $138.88 plus $31.50 Call Centre Booking Fee. 120K miles.

jarusoba Feb 28, 2009 11:26 am

YYZ(AC)-HKG(SQ)-SIN(SQ)-PER(SQ)-SIN(SQ)-HKG(NH)-NRT(AC)-YYZ all in J
100K points + $354.40 (Taxes and rip-offs) + $31.50 (Booking fee)

YYZ(AC)-YVR(AC)-ICN(OZ)-HKG(SQ)-SIN(SQ)-MEL(Openjaw)SYD(SQ)-SIN(SQ)-NRT(AC)-YYZ all in J
100K points + $358.00 (Taxes and rip-offs) + $31.50 (Booking fee)

YYZ(AC)-HKG(NH)-NRT(AC)-YYZ
100K points + $142.00 (Taxes and rip-offs) + $31.50 (Booking fee)

CdnFlier Feb 28, 2009 11:52 am

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8900/4.6.1.94 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/107)

YYZ(AC)-CMH
15k points + $150.64 in fees and tax.

The only thing that makes this okay is that this flight is often $600 up to $1500 last minute.

bluenose77 Feb 28, 2009 1:43 pm

YHZ - LAX D (J) Reward 40,000

Combined Taxes, Fees, Charges and Surcharges $143.55

4 of us going in total, booked today to get it in under the wire.

Fare Calc: YHZ AC X/YTO AC LAX R0.00AC X/YMQ AC YHZ R0.00NUC0.00
END ROE1.26426 XT6.30XA8.80XY23.00SQ40.60US54.00YQ1.95RC
3.20AY XF5.70LAX4.50

getaround Feb 28, 2009 7:23 pm


Originally Posted by Yukonprince (Post 11335041)
Fredericton - Toronto Air Canada Y
Toronto - Frankfurt LH First
Frankfurt - Amsterdam LH J
Amsterdam - Munich LH J
Munich - Hon Kong LH First
Hong Kong - Seoul Asiana First
Seoul - Chicago Asiana First
Cicago - Toronto United First
Toronto - Fredericton Air Canada Y

Booked January 29, 2009

Canada Security Charge $17
GST $1
Combined taxes $185.77

Total $203.77 PLUS $30.00 + tax $3,90 = $33.90 Call Centre fee

120,000 Aeroplan points

Beep Beep Arrrrrrrrr :) Your price is better than mine :)

Argonaut1000 Feb 28, 2009 9:23 pm


Originally Posted by margarita girl (Post 11335453)
Same for me! And the taxes charged actually match up to those on a revenue ticket.

My Aeroplan ticket:
Canada Security Charge (CA) .................................................. .....17.00
Canada Goods and Services Tax .................................................. ..1.00
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges for Classic Flight .......... 75.00
Total .................................................. ..................................... 93.00


Sample revenue ticket:
Taxes, Fees and Charges
Canada Airport Improvement Fee SQ ..............................................20.0 0
Air Travellers Security Charge (ATSC) CA ....................................... 17.00
Mexico Intl. Arpt. Departure Tax XD ............................................... 31.08
Canada Goods and Services Tax (GST/HST #10009-2287 RT0001) XG .. 1.00
Mexico Tourism Tax UK .................................................. ............ 23.72
Total .................................................. ..................................... 92.80

Stinger, what's different from your fall tickets? Presumably, the all inclusive "combined taxes" amount?

They match up as I don't think YQ (fuel surcharge) is charged on some of the revenue MEX routings/ tickets.;)

Black Hawk Feb 28, 2009 9:39 pm

Yvr-pvg-yyz-yvr
 

Originally Posted by Raffles longhaul (Post 11334487)
I would appreciate AP Members input on how much they paid for there AP reward tickets in fees and SURCHARGES.. Please list the routing, the airlines flown or to be flown and class of service and how many points the reward cost...I paid $31.50 AP service fee plus $32.75 in taxes for a grand total of $64.25.... Routing is : YVR-SEOUL-SIN-SYD-SIN-BKK-SEOUL- YVR..... SYD is my point of turnaround.... and my SIN-SYD leg shows 77W :cool: All flights are on SQ except BKK-SEOUL is on TG. All flights are in BIZ Class and cost 100,000 miles..

Airport taxes, charges and fees - adults$357.75+75K

No idea why most of you paid less than CAD100 for overseas trips.....:confused:

getaround Feb 28, 2009 11:18 pm


Originally Posted by Black Hawk (Post 11338815)
Airport taxes, charges and fees - adults$357.75+75K

No idea why most of you paid less than CAD100 for overseas trips.....:confused:

If you fly AC it cost more as they charge fuel charges on rewards where as other partners do not.

Black Hawk Feb 28, 2009 11:28 pm

Thanks for the info!
 

Originally Posted by getaround (Post 11339095)
If you fly AC it cost more as they charge fuel charges on rewards where as other partners do not.

So I guess that's why people are calling AP agent to book the trip instead since the online tool is unable to calculate the charges for *A partners.

But it's still worth the service fee we pay...:p

yycworldtraveler Mar 1, 2009 9:32 am


Originally Posted by getaround (Post 11339095)
If you fly AC it cost more as they charge fuel charges on rewards where as other partners do not.

It's not that the other partners don't have fuel surcharges...at the moment AE agents do not calculate fuel surcharges for partner airlines unless the booking/reservation engine can generate it automatically.

The more *A partners in the booking (with no AC segments) the better the chance of having no fuel surcharge on your award ticket.

mboca28 Mar 1, 2009 1:30 pm

simple
 
overseas avoid ac their fees are a joke

mboca28 Mar 1, 2009 1:48 pm

simple
 
overseas avoid ac their fees are a joke

x-gator Mar 1, 2009 11:30 pm

YOW/SYD
 
Date of issue 28-Feb 2009

Aeroplan Flight Reward ClassicFlight (2 x 130K for J)

Taxes, surcharges and airline fees per passenger (age of 2 and over)

Canada Security Charge (CA) 17.00
Australia Passenger Service Charge (WY) 39.20
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges *for ClassicFlight, see fare calculation below (XT) 373.85


*Fare calculation:
YOW AC X/YVR AC SYD M0.00AC X/YVR AC YOW M0.00NUC0.00
END ROE1.26426 XT320.00YQ15.00SQ0.75XG38.10AU

Raffles longhaul Mar 3, 2009 11:27 am


Originally Posted by Black Hawk (Post 11338815)
Airport taxes, charges and fees - adults$357.75+75K

No idea why most of you paid less than CAD100 for overseas trips.....:confused:

Try to avoid AC even on transborder routes..Use star carriers from there CAN/US gateway cities to overseas destinations... Wow are there ever big differences in taxes and fees..Sometimes it is less expensive to buy a ticket on AC to your Star carriers gateway city rather than flying AC on the first and last leg of your reward ticket to the star carriers gateway city.

getaround Mar 3, 2009 12:22 pm


Originally Posted by Raffles longhaul (Post 11353488)
Try to avoid AC even on transborder routes..Use star carriers from there CAN/US gateway cities to overseas destinations... Wow are there ever big differences in taxes and fees..Sometimes it is less expensive to buy a ticket on AC to your Star carriers gateway city rather than flying AC on the first and last leg of your reward ticket to the star carriers gateway city.

Hmm, now i need to work out how to get to JFK or YYZ not using AC.

margarita girl Mar 3, 2009 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by getaround (Post 11353783)
Hmm, now i need to work out how to get to JFK or YYZ not using AC.

Well I flew from YYZ-JFK using Air Miles on AA, and the taxes were $235/ticket :eek: so I wouldn't recommend that!

getaround Mar 3, 2009 12:38 pm


Originally Posted by margarita girl (Post 11353849)
Well I flew from YYZ-JFK using Air Miles on AA, and the taxes were $235/ticket :eek: so I wouldn't recommend that!


I might have to drive down to BTV.

Raffles longhaul Mar 3, 2009 12:47 pm


Originally Posted by getaround (Post 11353783)
Hmm, now i need to work out how to get to JFK or YYZ not using AC.

Depending on what type of award you are doing From YUL-PHL-JFK/LGA on U.S.Air may be allowed on your reward itinerary...

getaround Mar 3, 2009 12:53 pm


Originally Posted by Raffles longhaul (Post 11353938)
Depending on what type of award you are doing From YUL-PHL-JFK/LGA on U.S.Air may be allowed on your reward itinerary...

Im trying to do any of the following or any other combination that works without going AC to advoid the costs. (Biz)

Now if that means I need to go via BTV then so be it.

I dont even know if these are valid or not.

YUL / JFK / FRA / SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL

YUL / YYZ / FRA/ SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL

YUL /JFK / FRA/ HKG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL

YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ HKN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL

YUL /JFK / FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL

YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL

YUL / JFK / FRA / SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL

YUL / YYZ / FRA/ SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL

YUL /JFK / FRA/ HKG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL

YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ HKN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL

YUL /JFK / FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL

YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL

I wish we had a thread for every possible solution to Australia :)

Raffles longhaul Mar 3, 2009 1:15 pm


Originally Posted by getaround (Post 11353975)
Im trying to do any of the following or any other combination that works without going AC to advoid the costs. (Biz)

Now if that means I need to go via BTV then so be it.

I dont even know if these are valid or not.

YUL / JFK / FRA / SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL

YUL / YYZ / FRA/ SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL

YUL /JFK / FRA/ HKG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL

YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ HKN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL

YUL /JFK / FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL

YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL

YUL / JFK / FRA / SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL

YUL / YYZ / FRA/ SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL

YUL /JFK / FRA/ HKG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL

YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ HKN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL

YUL /JFK / FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL

YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL

I wish we had a thread for every possible solution to Australia :)

I would add the US AIR segments at the beginning of your itinerary and at the end if flying via JFK...One agent will tell you a certain itinerary is valid another agent will tell you its not valid.. Some AP agents do not even know whats valid.. I would try the following : YUL-PHL-LGA/JFK-FRA-SIN-SYD-SIN-FRA-JFK/LGA-PHL-YUL.. Using US Air to LGA and SQ for the rest of the itinerary... or YUL-IAD/CLT-JFK

ZortNarf Mar 3, 2009 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by getaround (Post 11353783)
Hmm, now i need to work out how to get to JFK or YYZ not using AC.

Porter?

getaround Mar 3, 2009 1:37 pm


Originally Posted by ZortNarf (Post 11354163)

Not as part of a reward.

getaround Mar 3, 2009 10:52 pm


Originally Posted by Raffles longhaul (Post 11354092)
I would add the US AIR segments at the beginning of your itinerary and at the end if flying via JFK...One agent will tell you a certain itinerary is valid another agent will tell you its not valid.. Some AP agents do not even know whats valid.. I would try the following : YUL-PHL-LGA/JFK-FRA-SIN-SYD-SIN-FRA-JFK/LGA-PHL-YUL.. Using US Air to LGA and SQ for the rest of the itinerary... or YUL-IAD/CLT-JFK

I spun of your PHL suggestion.

Im going to try -

YUL/PHL/FRA/ SGN STOP / SIN /BNE STOP / SIN / KUL/FRA/PHL/YUL

mboca28 Mar 4, 2009 8:02 am

pbi-yyz yyz-pbi
 
93.57 out 3/17 return 3/20

106000 points j class just booked

mboca28 Mar 4, 2009 8:13 am

pbi-yyz yyz-pbi
 
93.57 out 3/17 return 3/20

106000 points j class just booked

mboca28 Mar 4, 2009 9:00 am

ams-yyz
 
jclass 80000 points x 2

786.00 taxes and surcharges

yikes

mboca28 Mar 4, 2009 9:03 am

yyz-yxe jclass
 
103.45

4/14-4/21

getaround Mar 5, 2009 6:43 pm


Originally Posted by getaround (Post 11357089)
I spun of your PHL suggestion.

Im going to try -

YUL/PHL/FRA/ SGN STOP / SIN /BNE STOP / SIN / KUL/FRA/PHL/YUL

Well, called last night route was AOK and changed it a little further.

Thanks 'Raffles longhaul' for mentioning PHL didn't quite use your suggestion but I did use it as an option which ultimately was used to make this successful; so cheers.

So Final route:

Business class / Except the YUL/PHL/YUL which is economy- X 2 100,000 PP points.

YUL/PHL - US
PHL/FRA - LH
FRA/SGN - STOP - SQ
SNG/SIN - STOP - SQ
SIN/BNE - POINT OF TURN /STOP - SQ
BNE/SIN - SQ
SIN/KUL - SQ
KUL/FRA - SQ
FRA/PHL - LH
PHL/YUL - US

Canada Security Charge (CA)
17.00PP
Canada Goods and Services Tax (GST/HST #10009-2287) (XG)
1.00PP
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges *for ClassicFlight, see fare calculation below (XT)
116.15PP


Total = 226.30

Cheers FF AC members ^

Spot planes Mar 6, 2009 12:35 am

YVR-PEK Y class 14MAR09 return.

CA = $17
YQ = $326
XT = $29.95

TOTAL=$372.95

Ripe off !!

Polar Man Mar 6, 2009 2:34 pm

YOW-PER
 
yow-yyz AC J
yyz-nrt AC J
nrt-sin SQ J
sin-per SQ J

per-sin SQ J
sin-nrt SQ J
nrt-yvr AC J
stop
yvr-yyc AC J
yyc-yow AC J

402.75 later added a stop in yvr + $50 change fee.
total $452.75
100,000 miles

travel agent Mar 8, 2009 3:41 pm

booked today VIE - RZE
RZE - BRU

in J class 30,000 Points

NO TAX!!!

Chuza Mar 8, 2009 6:11 pm

KIX-BKK
 
I booked two Aeroplan business class tickets between KIX and BKK on TG (Thai Airways) on the web. It cost me 30,000 Aeroplan points per person and initially no extra fees of any kind.

However, at KIX, I was reminded by a Thai agent that I had to pay 5,300 yen (2,650 yen x 2) KIX airport facility fee. There were no other charges of any kind.

Incidentally I flew YVR-NRT-ITM on a regular ticket (about 1,050 per person).

It is quite clear that better deals are found when and where no Canadian airport and AC flights were not involved.

UA Fan Mar 14, 2009 7:33 pm


Originally Posted by travel agent (Post 11381094)
booked today VIE - RZE
RZE - BRU

in J class 30,000 Points

NO TAX!!!

Wow, with US/UA there would have been some ridiculous charges. How did this happen?


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