YYZ-JNB CAD$1270 + tax AC/SA
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YYZ-JNB CAD$1270 + tax AC/SA
Noticed this decent deal while web surfing tonight, so thought I'd share. Found it on travelocity, though ac.com wouldn't pull it. And yeah, I know, the taxes are killer, but FWIW it's less than the consolidators as I double checked to see how good this price was. Also stopover allowed and very short min. stay rule. Anyway:
Outbound Flight
Wed, Feb 07
10:55pm Depart - Toronto, Canada (YYZ) Air Canada 858
Thu, Feb 08
11:15am Arrive - London Heathrow, UK (LHR) Nonstop
Thu, Feb 08
9:05pm Depart - London Heathrow, UK (LHR) South African Airways 237
Fri, Feb 09
10:10am Arrive - Johannesburg, South Africa (JNB) Nonstop
Return Flight
Wed, Feb 21
10:10pm Depart - Johannesburg, South Africa (JNB) South African Airways 236
Thu, Feb 22
7:20am Arrive - London Heathrow, UK (LHR) Nonstop
Thu, Feb 22
9:00am Depart - London Heathrow, UK (LHR) Air Canada 869
12:10pm Arrive - Toronto, Canada (YYZ) Nonstop
Travellers Price
1 adult = CAD 1270.00
Taxes and Fees = CAD 439.11
Service Fee = CAD 20.00
Total Price = CAD 1729.11
BTW, it's also available from the YVR & YYC for approx base of CAD$1470++
Outbound Flight
Wed, Feb 07
10:55pm Depart - Toronto, Canada (YYZ) Air Canada 858
Thu, Feb 08
11:15am Arrive - London Heathrow, UK (LHR) Nonstop
Thu, Feb 08
9:05pm Depart - London Heathrow, UK (LHR) South African Airways 237
Fri, Feb 09
10:10am Arrive - Johannesburg, South Africa (JNB) Nonstop
Return Flight
Wed, Feb 21
10:10pm Depart - Johannesburg, South Africa (JNB) South African Airways 236
Thu, Feb 22
7:20am Arrive - London Heathrow, UK (LHR) Nonstop
Thu, Feb 22
9:00am Depart - London Heathrow, UK (LHR) Air Canada 869
12:10pm Arrive - Toronto, Canada (YYZ) Nonstop
Travellers Price
1 adult = CAD 1270.00
Taxes and Fees = CAD 439.11
Service Fee = CAD 20.00
Total Price = CAD 1729.11
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Fare details for L0MSLZA REGULAR EXCURSION SPECIAL FARE FARE BK CODE L - PENALTY ORIGINATING CANADA - CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME CHARGE CAD 200.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER. NOTE - PASSENGER MAY UPGRADE TO ANY HIGHER APPLICABLE FARE AT A CHARGE OF CAD 200.00 PLUS DIFFERENCE IN FARE. THE NON-REFUNDABLE PORTION OF THE TICKET MAY BE USED AS A CREDIT TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF ANOTHER HIGHER FARE. THE NON REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON REFUNDABLE. CANCELLATIONS ONLY PERMITTED PRIOR TO FLIGHT DATE IF PASSENGER NO-SHOWS FARE WILL BE FORFEITED. DOWNGRADES NOT PERMITTED. CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE CAD 200.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. NOTE - CHANGES MADE SAME DAY AT THE AIRPORT CHARGE 100.00CAD / 75.00EUR ORIGINATING AREA 2/AREA 3 - CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME CHARGE EUR 100.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER. NOTE - PASSENGER MAY UPGRADE TO ANY HIGHER APPLICABLE FARE AT A CHARGE OF EUR 100.00 PLUS DIFFERENCE IN FARE. THE NON-REFUNDABLE PORTION OF THE TICKET MAY BE USED AS A CREDIT TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF ANOTHER HIGHER FARE. THE NON REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON REFUNDABLE. CANCELLATIONS ONLY PERMITTED PRIOR TO FLIGHT DATE IF PASSENGER NO-SHOWS FARE WILL BE FORFEITED. DOWNGRADES NOT PERMITTED. CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE EUR 100.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. NOTE - CHANGES MADE SAME DAY AT THE AIRPORT CHARGE 100.00CAD /75.00EUR RES/TKTG TKT MUST BE PURCHASED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER RES IS MADE. SGMTS USING THIS RULE MUST BE CONFIRMED. MIN STAY RETURN TRVL IS VALID ON THE 1ST SUN. MEASURED FROM DPTR FROM ORIGIN. MAX STAY RETURN TRVL MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS. MEASURED FROM DPTR FROM ORIGIN TO DPTR FROM LAST STOPOVER POINT. SEASONS 1-25MAY, 25SEP-7DEC OR 24DEC-30APR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. SAME DATES APPLY EACH YEAR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF ORIGIN AND IS DETERMINED BY DATE OF DEPARTURE OF FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR. BLACKOUTS NO BLACKOUT RESTRICTIONS APPLY. FLT APPL NO FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY. STOPOVERS UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED. A STOPOVER OCCURS WHEN THE PASSENGER DOES NOT DEPART AN INTERMEDIATE POINT WITHIN 24 HOURS. TICKET RESTRICTIONS NOTE: EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY FOR MEDICAL REASONS IS NOT PERMITTED UNDER GUIDELINES STATED IN RULE 65/D/2. DISCOUNTS 75 PCT OF THE ADT FARE IS CHARGED FOR A CNN PSGR 2 THRU 11 YRS OF AGE. CNN PSGR MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SGMTS BY AN ADT PSGR TRAVELING IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT. - - - - 75 PCT OF THE ADT FARE IS CHARGED FOR AN INS PSGR UNDER 2 YRS OF AGE. INS PSGR MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SGMTS BY AN ADT PSGR TRAVELING IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT. - - - - 10 PCT OF THE ADT FARE IS CHARGED FOR AN INF PSGR UNDER 2 YRS OF AGE NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT. INF PSGR MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SGMTS BY AN ADT PSGR TRAVELING IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT. *** TOUR CONDUCTOR/ SALES AGENT DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY. REROUTE SEE PENALTY. TRANSFERS UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED. -SURFACE SEGMENTS NOT PERMITTED. NOTE: FARE CONSTRUCTION SURFACE SECTOR NOT PERMITTED. COMBINATIONS CARRIER / RULE / FARE CIRCLE OPEN ROUND BASIS TRIP JAW TRIP SAME / SAME / SAME C C C SAME / SAME / DIFF C C C SAME / DIFF / SAME C C C SAME / DIFF / DIFF C C C DIFF / SAME / SAME C C C DIFF / SAME / DIFF C C C DIFF / DIFF / SAME C C C DIFF / DIFF / DIFF C C C Y / PERMITTED N / NOT PERMITTED - / DOES NOT APPLY C / SEE TEXT FOR CONDITIONS CONDITIONS APPLICABLE TO ROUND TRIP/CIRCLE TRIP/SINGLE OPEN JAW - -MAY BE COMBINED WITH ANY ROUND TRIP FARE GOVERNED BY ANY RULE IN ANY TARIFF VIA LH/SK/OS/BD/AC/LX. -MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITIONS APPLY. ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS APPLY ROUND TRIP - -PERMITTED. CIRCLE TRIP - -PERMITTED. OPEN JAW - -SINGLE OPEN JAW PERMITTED AT EITHER ORIGIN OR DESTINATION. END-ON-END - -PERMITTED. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE FARE COMBINATION POINT. OPEN RTN NOT ALLOWED. REFUNDS SEE PENALTY. CO-TERMINALS NOT APPLICABLE. INTL CONST MAY BE COMBINED WITH APPLICABLE ARBITRARIES. ROUTINGS EXCESS MILEAGE SURCHARGE MAY BE IGNORED UP TO 25M WHEN TRAVEL EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED MILEAGE MISC NOTE - AIRPORT SAME DAY CONFIRMED CHANGE - PASSENGERS HOLDING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS AND TICKETS MAY CONFIRM EARLIER/LATER SAME DAY FLIGHTS BETWEEN SAME ORIGIN/DESTINATION/STOPOVER POINTS FOR A NON-REFUNDABLE FEE OF CAD100.00/USD 85.00/ GBP 50.00/EUR 75.00
BTW, it's also available from the YVR & YYC for approx base of CAD$1470++
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I really wish AC & TAP would start Toronto > Lisbon service. That would open the door to many needed routes into Africa. Plus transit via LIS, taxes would be way lower than LHR. Which has been a pain to fly in to for many reason to mention!
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Originally Posted by airbus320
I did not see anything in the rules about frequent flyer miles
http://www.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/o...AfricanAirways
Does this fare accrue Aeroplan status miles?
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Originally Posted by tcook052
Sadly SA L class earns only 50%, according to aeroplan.com:
http://www.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/o...AfricanAirways
http://www.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/o...AfricanAirways
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This is indeed a great fare. The bulk of taxes/fees are AC's fuel surcharge and the UK customs one. I was pricing a trip earlier this summer for August and the best I could do was about $2700, pricing out AC to FRA and SAA to JNB. There was a good SAA fare ex-IAD and JFK, but the cost of the connecting flight bumped it into this same price range.
BTW I did price out YYZ-GRU-JNB and it wasn't much cheaper than via FRA. Big problem was AC's being virtually sold out between Canada and Brazil putting that fare into the M/Y range most of the flights I tried. Likely to remain until the new Varig increases flight to NAmerica. (UA was a lot cheaper since it had open flights on the dates I needed.)
BTW I did price out YYZ-GRU-JNB and it wasn't much cheaper than via FRA. Big problem was AC's being virtually sold out between Canada and Brazil putting that fare into the M/Y range most of the flights I tried. Likely to remain until the new Varig increases flight to NAmerica. (UA was a lot cheaper since it had open flights on the dates I needed.)
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Originally Posted by Scott218
From the Aeroplan chart, SA H fare gets 100% status miles.
Double checked this a.m. and fare also identical for YYZ-CPT.
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Originally Posted by FLYACYYZ
Ouch!! Those taxes are a killer. With AC's planned investment in RG, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see YYZ-GRU-JNB operating in the future.
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Originally Posted by YOWkid
Except AC would first need the rights to do this.
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Originally Posted by Scott218
From the Aeroplan chart, SA H fare gets 100% status miles.
This came to light was I was looking at YVR-->JNB. The SQ fares were reasonable and full fares, but the Air Canada flight to LAX or SFO was deeply discounted thus all 25+ miles were inelgible.
FYI: what I did was book on Cathay Pacific in deep discount, but put the points on Alaska. Alaska give your 100% of the miles flown for any booking class flown on CX. (I called AS to confirm.) I know you're in Toronto, but you can transfer the AS points to CX, AA, BA and few others.
Cheers.
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Don't see all the hype about this fare, is it is a normal fare to South Africa. In fact, it might even be a bit pricey given the departure point, relative to all other Canadian cities. Check out this offering on a UA/LH routing for the same dates, true MRunner style!
United Airlines #8361:
Depart: Toronto (YYZ) on Feb. 07 at 12:00
Arrive: Chicago (IL) (ORD) on Feb. 07 at 12:50
United Airlines
United Airlines #940:
Depart: Chicago (IL) (ORD) on Feb. 07 at 18:22
Arrive: Frankfurt (FRA) on Feb. 08 at 09:45
United Airlines
Lufthansa #572:
Depart: Frankfurt (FRA) on Feb. 08 at 22:20
Arrive: Johannesburg (JNB) on Feb. 09 at 09:40
Lufthansa
In
Lufthansa #573:
Depart: Johannesburg (JNB) on Feb. 21 at 20:15
Arrive: Frankfurt (FRA) on Feb. 22 at 05:30
Lufthansa
United Airlines #945:
Depart: Frankfurt (FRA) on Feb. 22 at 08:10
Arrive: Chicago (IL) (ORD) on Feb. 22 at 10:35
United Airlines
United Airlines #8394:
Depart: Chicago (IL) (ORD) on Feb. 22 at 13:25
Arrive: Toronto (YYZ) on Feb. 22 at 15:59
Price Taxes/Fees Passengers Total
$1,250.00 CAD $334.08 CAD 1 Adult(s) $1,584.08 CAD
Total: $1,584.08 CAD
United Airlines #8361:
Depart: Toronto (YYZ) on Feb. 07 at 12:00
Arrive: Chicago (IL) (ORD) on Feb. 07 at 12:50
United Airlines
United Airlines #940:
Depart: Chicago (IL) (ORD) on Feb. 07 at 18:22
Arrive: Frankfurt (FRA) on Feb. 08 at 09:45
United Airlines
Lufthansa #572:
Depart: Frankfurt (FRA) on Feb. 08 at 22:20
Arrive: Johannesburg (JNB) on Feb. 09 at 09:40
Lufthansa
In
Lufthansa #573:
Depart: Johannesburg (JNB) on Feb. 21 at 20:15
Arrive: Frankfurt (FRA) on Feb. 22 at 05:30
Lufthansa
United Airlines #945:
Depart: Frankfurt (FRA) on Feb. 22 at 08:10
Arrive: Chicago (IL) (ORD) on Feb. 22 at 10:35
United Airlines
United Airlines #8394:
Depart: Chicago (IL) (ORD) on Feb. 22 at 13:25
Arrive: Toronto (YYZ) on Feb. 22 at 15:59
Price Taxes/Fees Passengers Total
$1,250.00 CAD $334.08 CAD 1 Adult(s) $1,584.08 CAD
Total: $1,584.08 CAD