Best route YUL/HKG?
Jul 12, 2006, 8:24 am
#16
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Originally Posted by Andrew Yiu
Once again I do not agree with your statement about this flight being extremely unrealiable.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...0&page=4&pp=15
I refer to post#60 at the above thread that about 1 in 5 chance, the flight is delay for 1.5 hour or more. When I last looked at KVS with the 2.2.4 version update, I recollect only about 77% of AC015 were noted as "on time" during the past 50 days.
Let's just leave the statistics on the table to let each individual FT to decide. Those with KVS access may also check the reliability statistics themselves.
Last edited by Clipper801; Jul 12, 2006 at 8:30 am
Jul 12, 2006, 8:31 am
#17
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Originally Posted by Clipper801
We may have different expectation and I am not going to "argue" on this issue here as it has already been extensively discussed at this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...0&page=4&pp=15
I refer to post#60 at the above thread that about 1 in 5 chance, the flight is delay for 1.5 hour or more. When I last looked at KVS with the 2.2.4 version update, I recollect only about 77% of AC015 were noted as "on time" during the past 50 days.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...0&page=4&pp=15
I refer to post#60 at the above thread that about 1 in 5 chance, the flight is delay for 1.5 hour or more. When I last looked at KVS with the 2.2.4 version update, I recollect only about 77% of AC015 were noted as "on time" during the past 50 days.
Jul 12, 2006, 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by IluvSQ
If your choice is only AC, then I recommend going through YVR rather than YYZ
( or both - better chance of a " decent" seat YYZ-YVR than YUL-YVR, I believe)
If simply " best J Class route", then I would prefer YUL-YVR-HKG on CX ( rather than
the Toronto-Alaska routing), or SQ through ICN, or.... many other choices via
connections through west coast
( or both - better chance of a " decent" seat YYZ-YVR than YUL-YVR, I believe)
If simply " best J Class route", then I would prefer YUL-YVR-HKG on CX ( rather than
the Toronto-Alaska routing), or SQ through ICN, or.... many other choices via
connections through west coast
There's no reason to subject yourself to AC J for a transcon. Especially when it's paid full fare J. Doesn't AA fly YUL-JFK?
Though, I guess at that point, you might as well fly YUL-EWR-SIN-HKG. The only problem is the short haul after a long haul can be annoying/exhausting.
Last edited by oopsz; Jul 12, 2006 at 8:43 am
Jul 12, 2006, 8:43 am
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Getting back to original question of this thread,I refer you all to the quote below for a further reminder of what the OP was looking for......
"Thanks everyone, for your input. Let me clarify what is "the best way" for me. I am looking for connections that won't drive me crazy, flights that are dependable and do not have a history of being cancelled or delayed. I am looking for service and quality of the J class cabin. This is one of my concerns about the AC J on such a long flight. I love SQ, but have not flown CX. In my SE package, I did choose the bonus miles option on AC metal, so perhaps that is one other consideration, but not critical.
My ticket will be full paid J. I will be going out on Aug 22, return Sep 1 (Friday of a holiday weekend)."
Would it not be wise to cut each other some slack, some of the posts already verge on being inflammatory! Let's try and stick to the subject which is getting the OP from YUL to HKG the quickest and most comfortable way!
"Thanks everyone, for your input. Let me clarify what is "the best way" for me. I am looking for connections that won't drive me crazy, flights that are dependable and do not have a history of being cancelled or delayed. I am looking for service and quality of the J class cabin. This is one of my concerns about the AC J on such a long flight. I love SQ, but have not flown CX. In my SE package, I did choose the bonus miles option on AC metal, so perhaps that is one other consideration, but not critical.
My ticket will be full paid J. I will be going out on Aug 22, return Sep 1 (Friday of a holiday weekend)."
Would it not be wise to cut each other some slack, some of the posts already verge on being inflammatory! Let's try and stick to the subject which is getting the OP from YUL to HKG the quickest and most comfortable way!
Jul 12, 2006, 8:43 am
#20
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Originally Posted by Andrew Yiu
Once again I do not agree with your statement about this flight being extremely unrealiable.
Last 3 days it shows ontime. AC having ONLY 2 A345 means that equipment switches for maintenance are inevitable.
Jul 12, 2006, 9:14 am
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Its a shame that UA C class product isn't great as they have good times out of SFO and ORD from YUL. Of course, you could always buy up to F class
Jul 12, 2006, 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by wali
How about YUL-JFK,then JFK-HKG on Emirates...for a really awesome F experience. ^
The stop in Dubai is about 1.5hrs.
The stop in Dubai is about 1.5hrs.
According to the Emirates website: USD8,974.44
Jul 12, 2006, 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Q Shoe Guy
Getting back to original question of this thread,I refer you all to the quote below for a further reminder of what the OP was looking for......
"Thanks everyone, for your input. Let me clarify what is "the best way" for me. I am looking for connections that won't drive me crazy, flights that are dependable and do not have a history of being cancelled or delayed. I am looking for service and quality of the J class cabin. This is one of my concerns about the AC J on such a long flight. I love SQ, but have not flown CX. In my SE package, I did choose the bonus miles option on AC metal, so perhaps that is one other consideration, but not critical.
My ticket will be full paid J. I will be going out on Aug 22, return Sep 1 (Friday of a holiday weekend)."
Would it not be wise to cut each other some slack, some of the posts already verge on being inflammatory! Let's try and stick to the subject which is getting the OP from YUL to HKG the quickest and most comfortable way!
"Thanks everyone, for your input. Let me clarify what is "the best way" for me. I am looking for connections that won't drive me crazy, flights that are dependable and do not have a history of being cancelled or delayed. I am looking for service and quality of the J class cabin. This is one of my concerns about the AC J on such a long flight. I love SQ, but have not flown CX. In my SE package, I did choose the bonus miles option on AC metal, so perhaps that is one other consideration, but not critical.
My ticket will be full paid J. I will be going out on Aug 22, return Sep 1 (Friday of a holiday weekend)."
Would it not be wise to cut each other some slack, some of the posts already verge on being inflammatory! Let's try and stick to the subject which is getting the OP from YUL to HKG the quickest and most comfortable way!
I have decided to stay with *A, so it appears SQ or AC are my best options. I'm willing to believe Andrew about the on-time stats, however I think J class on AC is risky for working seats and AV - I've not had great luck lately.
So please vote:
Option 1 - complicated routing on SQ, with guaranteed cabin quality and service?
Option 2 - easy routing on AC, with lousy cabin and ? service? Oh, and please advise - is it better via YYZ or YVR.
Your help is GREATLY appreciated.
Jul 12, 2006, 2:32 pm
#28
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Originally Posted by yulgirl
OK - Let's narrow the criteria even more...
I have decided to stay with *A, so it appears SQ or AC are my best options. I'm willing to believe Andrew about the on-time stats, however I think J class on AC is risky for working seats and AV - I've not had great luck lately.
So please vote:
Option 1 - complicated routing on SQ, with guaranteed cabin quality and service?
Option 2 - easy routing on AC, with lousy cabin and ? service? Oh, and please advise - is it better via YYZ or YVR.
Your help is GREATLY appreciated.
I have decided to stay with *A, so it appears SQ or AC are my best options. I'm willing to believe Andrew about the on-time stats, however I think J class on AC is risky for working seats and AV - I've not had great luck lately.
So please vote:
Option 1 - complicated routing on SQ, with guaranteed cabin quality and service?
Option 2 - easy routing on AC, with lousy cabin and ? service? Oh, and please advise - is it better via YYZ or YVR.
Your help is GREATLY appreciated.
He has done the YYZ-HKG and has never the experienced serious problems that others have unfortunately encountered, but finds the trip tiring.
He has travelled SQ in J and felt it was a better product, but the schedules tend to be very inconvenient, and he likes to rack up the redeemable miles, so for him the product difference will not be enough to go out of his way to travel SQ.
There is no correct answer here.
Jul 12, 2006, 2:42 pm
#29
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Originally Posted by yulgirl
OK - Let's narrow the criteria even more...
I have decided to stay with *A, so it appears SQ or AC are my best options. I'm willing to believe Andrew about the on-time stats, however I think J class on AC is risky for working seats and AV - I've not had great luck lately.
So please vote:
Option 1 - complicated routing on SQ, with guaranteed cabin quality and service?
Option 2 - easy routing on AC, with lousy cabin and ? service? Oh, and please advise - is it better via YYZ or YVR.
Your help is GREATLY appreciated.
I have decided to stay with *A, so it appears SQ or AC are my best options. I'm willing to believe Andrew about the on-time stats, however I think J class on AC is risky for working seats and AV - I've not had great luck lately.
So please vote:
Option 1 - complicated routing on SQ, with guaranteed cabin quality and service?
Option 2 - easy routing on AC, with lousy cabin and ? service? Oh, and please advise - is it better via YYZ or YVR.
Your help is GREATLY appreciated.
A345 is very new and is fine when it works. My spouse likes its angled lie flat seat but I don't.
Last edited by Clipper801; Jul 12, 2006 at 4:19 pm Reason: Option2 mis-typed as Option1