Yield Management Woes
Jan 27, 2006, 1:59 pm
#1
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Yield Management Woes
I'm flying from YYZ to ICN via YVR. To get an H fare from YVR to ICN (flight 63), my travel agent had to book me on the 7AM flight from YYZ to YVR (flight 103). The H fare from YVR to ICN is not available if I take a later flight from YYZ to YVR. This has been confirmed with KVS. The concierge couldn't help to get me on a later flight from YYZ to YVR, even though the 8AM, 8:30AM and 9AM flights are wide open.
Has anyone else seen this? Any comments on this bizarre yield management?
Has anyone else seen this? Any comments on this bizarre yield management?
Jan 27, 2006, 2:18 pm
#3
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Originally Posted by tracon
Morning flights are quite often full on this route because of connections to Asia.
FWIW I've seen AC111 YUL-YVR full in the J cabin a month before departure on numerous occasions.
FWIW I've seen AC111 YUL-YVR full in the J cabin a month before departure on numerous occasions.
Jan 27, 2006, 3:48 pm
#4
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I get this a lot when flying from YXU with a cnx in YYZ. The optimum connecting flight will not price out with the YYZ--> flight. It's no big deal if I'm on a flexible fare, but on lower class fares it means the change fee if I want to get home an hour or two earlier.
Jan 27, 2006, 4:02 pm
#5
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flt #111 is usually full in my experience up front. However exYYZ in the morning, the J cabin is usually at least half empty, the back is pretty full, but I've never had a problem getting into J ex YYZ in the morning.
Jan 27, 2006, 4:19 pm
#6
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Originally Posted by CrampedInY
KVS is showing the YYZ-YVR routes to be wide open. The problem is that H fare is only available for the YVR-ICN flight when linked to the 7AM flight from YYZ-YVR. YVR-ICN has no H fares when linked to the 8AM, 8:30 AM or 9AM YYZ-YVR flight.
Jan 27, 2006, 5:01 pm
#7
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A while ago, I posted my difficulties in finding "I" seats, I quote the following comments from fellow Forum members......
".......it's revenue management."
"............It is Air Canada's plane they can decide how they want to make money. ........ If that doesn't do it for you, then switch carriers."
I suppose that these comments also apply to your case if you cannot find any "H" fare on the flights that you want.
".......it's revenue management."
"............It is Air Canada's plane they can decide how they want to make money. ........ If that doesn't do it for you, then switch carriers."
I suppose that these comments also apply to your case if you cannot find any "H" fare on the flights that you want.
Last edited by Clipper801; Jan 28, 2006 at 8:55 am