phasing out tango???
#1
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phasing out tango???
Why is tango plus always $1 cheaper with better benefits? Are they trying to incent us not to buy tango? Any reason to do that other than to discontinue tango and simplify things?
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Tango fare is really only for the intra-canadian flights, where LCC competition is forcing AC to offer a cheaper price. The miles are non Q.
Tango Plus is competiting with the US based airlines, where you could fly UA or US and get full Q miles, AC had to offer a comparable product.
I know this will sound stupid, but Tango Plus was called "something else" but AC had to change the name to T+ because the "something else" was already used by another airline. Could someone remind me of that name please?
Tango Plus is competiting with the US based airlines, where you could fly UA or US and get full Q miles, AC had to offer a comparable product.
I know this will sound stupid, but Tango Plus was called "something else" but AC had to change the name to T+ because the "something else" was already used by another airline. Could someone remind me of that name please?
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Originally Posted by punkis
Why is tango plus always $1 cheaper with better benefits? Are they trying to incent us not to buy tango? Any reason to do that other than to discontinue tango and simplify things?
But for the new Tango Plus fare policies and the ability to get status miles on these fares, I likely would not have recieved my E status this year given my organization's policy to always buy the cheapest fares.
I say, AC...keep up the good work on fare restructuring !
cheers
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I know this will sound stupid, but Tango Plus was called "something else" but AC had to change the name to T+ because the "something else" was already used by another airline. Could someone remind me of that name please?
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I think you are refering to the 'fun' fare. There was also 'econo' that was rolled into the 'tango +' category if memory serves.
I know this will sound stupid, but Tango Plus was called "something else" but AC had to change the name to T+ because the "something else" was already used by another airline. Could someone remind me of that name please?
[/QUOTE]I think you are refering to the 'fun' fare. There was also 'econo' that was rolled into the 'tango +' category if memory serves.
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Originally Posted by Global guy
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I know this will sound stupid, but Tango Plus was called "something else" but AC had to change the name to T+ because the "something else" was already used by another airline. Could someone remind me of that name please?
I know this will sound stupid, but Tango Plus was called "something else" but AC had to change the name to T+ because the "something else" was already used by another airline. Could someone remind me of that name please?

GG,
Thanks for the info. It was indeed the fun fare, but the "fun fare" was already used by Southwest or America West (can't remember) and AC had to stop using it.
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Originally Posted by Super Larry
I know this will sound stupid, but Tango Plus was called "something else" but AC had to change the name to T+ because the "something else" was already used by another airline. Could someone remind me of that name please?

DF
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You are correct, on most flights from Canada to the US, T+ are set at $1 cheaper. However, as mentioned, on intra-Can flights, this is a whole other ballpark. There is a signiicant difference. I think eventually, the Tango will be a strictly intra-Can fare. Until then, I doubt if anyone will by a T fare, when the T+ is cheaper....
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I've been messing around on ac.com for transborder flights to BOS and ORD that I plan to do in the next couple of months. Unless it's a fluke, it looks like ac.com isn't showing Tango anymore for transborder, starting today(?)
All transborder prices under the Tango column are showing "-" for flights later in the year and even into 2006. I guess I missed something. FT search did not reveal anything special about transborder Tango changes. No mention in the fare class sticky thread. KVS is still showing N/G/P/E/T for future flights even into 2006. I've refreshed my browser, rebooted my computer, and yet everytime I go to aircanada.com and do a mock transborder booking for October, November, December, January, infinity and beyond it still shows Tango dashed out. I'm confused. Hold me.
Please forgive me if this is a false alarm or has already been discussed ad nauseum during my absence. Let this be a pre-emptive mea culpa if I am in error.
Edited to add: Ok, ...... checking for YYZ-FLL, YUL-FLL, YYZ-MCO, YYZ-TPA, YYZ-MIA in Jan 2006 still shows Tango, but no Tango for trips like YYZ-PHX, YVR-SFO, YYZ-LAX, YUL-ORD, YYZ-IAH, YYZ-DEN, YYC-LAX, YYZ-SEA, YYZ-STL, YYZ-EWR, YYZ-LGA, YYZ-ATL, etc. It just looks like Tango will exist only for Floridian destinations?
I am clearly on drugs here(?). I've taken several screenshots too in case anyone calls me a liar! (LLPOF!)
All transborder prices under the Tango column are showing "-" for flights later in the year and even into 2006. I guess I missed something. FT search did not reveal anything special about transborder Tango changes. No mention in the fare class sticky thread. KVS is still showing N/G/P/E/T for future flights even into 2006. I've refreshed my browser, rebooted my computer, and yet everytime I go to aircanada.com and do a mock transborder booking for October, November, December, January, infinity and beyond it still shows Tango dashed out. I'm confused. Hold me.
Please forgive me if this is a false alarm or has already been discussed ad nauseum during my absence. Let this be a pre-emptive mea culpa if I am in error.
Edited to add: Ok, ...... checking for YYZ-FLL, YUL-FLL, YYZ-MCO, YYZ-TPA, YYZ-MIA in Jan 2006 still shows Tango, but no Tango for trips like YYZ-PHX, YVR-SFO, YYZ-LAX, YUL-ORD, YYZ-IAH, YYZ-DEN, YYC-LAX, YYZ-SEA, YYZ-STL, YYZ-EWR, YYZ-LGA, YYZ-ATL, etc. It just looks like Tango will exist only for Floridian destinations?
I am clearly on drugs here(?). I've taken several screenshots too in case anyone calls me a liar! (LLPOF!)
Last edited by yyznomad; Aug 30, 2005 at 12:42 am
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
Edited to add: Ok, ...... checking for YYZ-FLL, YUL-FLL, YYZ-MCO, YYZ-TPA, YYZ-MIA in Jan 2006 still shows Tango, but no Tango for trips like YYZ-PHX, YVR-SFO, YYZ-LAX, YUL-ORD, YYZ-IAH, YYZ-DEN, YYC-LAX, YYZ-SEA, YYZ-STL, YYZ-EWR, YYZ-LGA, YYZ-ATL, etc. It just looks like Tango will exist only for Floridian destinations? 

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Agree with Cedric, this is a good move to eliminate confusion that exists when another STAR carrier books one of their FF members onto a TANGO transborder flight, and then receives grief from the member who finds s/he no longer earns status miles for the segment(s). And as pointed out, on these routes where AC competes with US carriers, the TANGO fare has actually been set higher than the T+ so "lowest fare" gives a full points accumulation fare. This is part of an evolving process to deal with the anomolies of a low fare environment. But like everything AC does, when they try to simplify things, they only make them more confusing. In a quest to eliminate the vast number of fares, AC created more fare codes! Then continues to regroup them into seemingly logical categories, but then inserts a whole other regime that doesn't quite fit the neat categories they've just created to simplify things!
When is a TANGO fare not a TANGO fare? When it's a TANGO PLUS fare. And when is a LATITUDE PLUS fare not a LATITUDE PLUS fare? When its a CITY PASS fare. And when is a LATITUDE fare not a LATITUDE fare? When it's a SUN PASS fare. Or something like that...
When is a TANGO fare not a TANGO fare? When it's a TANGO PLUS fare. And when is a LATITUDE PLUS fare not a LATITUDE PLUS fare? When its a CITY PASS fare. And when is a LATITUDE fare not a LATITUDE fare? When it's a SUN PASS fare. Or something like that...

