phasing out tango???
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
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Hope he doesn't wear those fancy glasses and scare the kid off.
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
KVS is still showing N/G/P/E/T for future flights even into 2006. I've refreshed my browser, rebooted my computer, and yet everytime I go to aircanada.com and do a mock transborder booking for October, November, December, January, infinity and beyond it still shows Tango dashed out. I'm confused.
-- for this, you should really be looking at fares, not availability data. To see fares for the routes in questions, just click the large [VIEW FARES] button in the KVS Tool.Using the YYZ/PHX/10JAN2006 route as an example, you will see that the lowest existing fare is Q14XFN.
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
I've been messing around on ac.com for transborder flights to BOS and ORD that I plan to do in the next couple of months. Unless it's a fluke, it looks like ac.com isn't showing Tango anymore for transborder, starting today(?)
Edited to add: Ok, ...... checking for YYZ-FLL, YUL-FLL, YYZ-MCO, YYZ-TPA, YYZ-MIA in Jan 2006 still shows Tango, but no Tango for trips like YYZ-PHX, YVR-SFO, YYZ-LAX, YUL-ORD, YYZ-IAH, YYZ-DEN, YYC-LAX, YYZ-SEA, YYZ-STL, YYZ-EWR, YYZ-LGA, YYZ-ATL, etc. It just looks like Tango will exist only for Floridian destinations?
Edited to add: Ok, ...... checking for YYZ-FLL, YUL-FLL, YYZ-MCO, YYZ-TPA, YYZ-MIA in Jan 2006 still shows Tango, but no Tango for trips like YYZ-PHX, YVR-SFO, YYZ-LAX, YUL-ORD, YYZ-IAH, YYZ-DEN, YYC-LAX, YYZ-SEA, YYZ-STL, YYZ-EWR, YYZ-LGA, YYZ-ATL, etc. It just looks like Tango will exist only for Floridian destinations?

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Originally Posted by cedric
This makes perfect sense if you think about it: Tango is meant to compete with the low-fare carriers that do not offer status miles, etc. Since there is quite a bit of charter/Westjet/Canjet competition to Florida, it is natural that Tango fares are available in these markets. In the other transborder markets, AC is competing against legacy carriers hence the lack of Tango on those routes.
Last edited by yyznomad; Aug 30, 2005 at 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
That's because you're looking at the wrong thing
-- for this, you should really be looking at fares, not availability data. To see fares for the routes in questions, just click the large [VIEW FARES] button in the KVS Tool.
Using the YYZ/PHX/10JAN2006 route as an example, you will see that the lowest existing fare is Q14XFN.
-- for this, you should really be looking at fares, not availability data. To see fares for the routes in questions, just click the large [VIEW FARES] button in the KVS Tool.Using the YYZ/PHX/10JAN2006 route as an example, you will see that the lowest existing fare is Q14XFN.
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I've noticed that T is gone for good as well SEA-YYZ. This only makes sense:
- All other transborder mainline carriers offer 100% mileage accumulation.
- Expedia, Orbitz, Travelocity will only display the lowest fare for each airline. If T was cheaper than T+, you would not accumulate Q miles when using these websites for booking.
- Mileage accumulation is an important benefit for non-domestic travel, since the competitors are mainline carriers.
- Thre were too many issues with booking United tickets on AC metal and getting the correct AP miles.
I am glad that Tango is gone for this route. Tango is still important for domestic because:
- no other competitor offersr EQM. Therefore, to the Cdn traveller, mileage accumulation becomes less of a factor.
- Aircanada.com is well advertised in Canada and is likely to be a booking engine of choice for those who want to accumulate Q miles.
- There is no codesharing of AC flights within Canada, so there is no mixup of different booking classes with different airlines.
My suspicion is that T still exists for some transborder flights to compete directly with other transborder Canadian carriers and the charters.
- All other transborder mainline carriers offer 100% mileage accumulation.
- Expedia, Orbitz, Travelocity will only display the lowest fare for each airline. If T was cheaper than T+, you would not accumulate Q miles when using these websites for booking.
- Mileage accumulation is an important benefit for non-domestic travel, since the competitors are mainline carriers.
- Thre were too many issues with booking United tickets on AC metal and getting the correct AP miles.
I am glad that Tango is gone for this route. Tango is still important for domestic because:
- no other competitor offersr EQM. Therefore, to the Cdn traveller, mileage accumulation becomes less of a factor.
- Aircanada.com is well advertised in Canada and is likely to be a booking engine of choice for those who want to accumulate Q miles.
- There is no codesharing of AC flights within Canada, so there is no mixup of different booking classes with different airlines.
My suspicion is that T still exists for some transborder flights to compete directly with other transborder Canadian carriers and the charters.
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Originally Posted by boymimbo
My suspicion is that T still exists for some transborder flights to compete directly with other transborder Canadian carriers and the charters.
SFO, LAX, DEN, SEA, STL, BDL, LGA, EWR, ORD, ATL, IAD, IAH, MSP, PHL, PIT, CLE, DFW, PHX, LAS, MSY, BDL, MDT, MHT, ROC, ABE, IND, DTW, BOS, PVD, RDU, MCI, CMH, MKE, and ALB are the ones I checked and don't have Tango.
Last edited by yyznomad; Aug 30, 2005 at 4:32 pm


