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Old Mar 15, 2004, 3:22 pm
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Westjet now will use T-2

http://makeashorterlink.com/?X39B12AB7

This shuffling is getting more confusing than the AC/CP merger

At least there's still hope of using the MLL on a WS flight - thanks PP!

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Old Mar 15, 2004, 3:48 pm
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Since AC will be moving its domestic flights from T2 to T1New, there will be no MLL to use at that end of T2. The Transborder MLL will still be operating but it is past Pre-Clearance so inaccessible to domestic travellers, and WestJet is likely to be operating from the other end of the terminal.

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Old Mar 15, 2004, 3:56 pm
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until such time as.... WestJet can take over its previously designated space in Terminal 1 (new)
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Old Mar 15, 2004, 4:04 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Shareholder:
Since AC will be moving its domestic flights from T2 to T1New, there will be no MLL to use at that end of T2. </font>
Shareholder, I have just compleated the T1New training/tour and was advised that the MLL in the new terminal will be accesible to both Dom. and Int. passengers, as most of AC dom. flights will be leaving from the new building. The only time T2 will be used for AC dom. will be in an "overflow" situation (which basically means when all the gates at T1 New are in use), passengers will be "bussed" from T1 to T2. Sounds like it will be a mess this summer...

Hope this helps!

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Old Mar 15, 2004, 6:29 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by B747-437B:
Revisionist history must be so much fun to write! </font>
Yes, it is very fun to write. I always defeat the bad guy and get the girl . Even if it is an audit findings report.

On to more important things. It looks like that the bus was good enough for AC passengers but is not good enough for WS types. WS still has the ability ot checkin passengers in TNew and bus them to T2. Then the passengers would get all the features of TNew and smart Fters could use the MLL. With WS only using T2 Checkin, the TNew MLL opportunity is out.
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Old Mar 15, 2004, 6:36 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by YYZNelly:
Shareholder, I have just compleated the T1New training/tour and was advised that the MLL in the new terminal will be accesible to both Dom. and Int. passengers, as most of AC dom. flights will be leaving from the new building.</font>
Welcome to Flyertalk YYZNelly.

With all the international flights in the infield terminal, what is the minium time I need to be at the infield bus bay (eg 20m minutes before boarding starts). While it is a nice idea to use the domestic MLL, I think all the travel time to infield terminal would result in no time left for the MLL.

It is still a great idea for the Western Canada to Europe connections, which can be up to 3-4 hours long.
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Old Mar 15, 2004, 6:54 pm
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The cut off for international flights at YYZ is 60 mins. You will not be allowed to check in after that. You are expected to board the bus for the IHT at 60 mins before departure at the latest.
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Old Mar 15, 2004, 6:59 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Empress:
The cut off for international flights at YYZ is 60 mins. You will not be allowed to check in after that. You are expected to board the bus for the IHT at 60 mins before departure at the latest.</font>

Are you saying they'll still bus folks to that infield piece of junk (is that your IHT?) after T1New is open?

What's the point then?
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Old Mar 15, 2004, 7:06 pm
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Yes. T1-New is not fully operational for another couple of years.
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Old Mar 15, 2004, 7:14 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Stranger:
What's the point then?</font>
The point is to allow inbound domestic connections to get directly from TNew gates to the IFT as needed rather than to have to transit T2-&gt;T1-&gt;IFT as is the current system.

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Old Mar 15, 2004, 7:16 pm
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It's simply a matter that there will not be enough gates at T1-New to move all the flights there; so some international flights remain at the IHT. Not because of that T2-T1-IHT.
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Old Mar 15, 2004, 7:23 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by B747-437B:
The point is to allow inbound domestic connections to get directly from TNew gates to the IFT as needed rather than to have to transit T2-&gt;T1-&gt;IFT as is the current system.</font>
That's not even why Stranger asked the question. His 'What's the point' question refers to why AC is still using the infield terminal even though T1-New is open. Your reply implied that they love the infield terminal so much that they will continue to use it and so they opened the T1-New just to save people time. Doesn't make sense to me.
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Old Mar 15, 2004, 8:19 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Stranger:

Are you saying they'll still bus folks to that infield piece of junk (is that your IHT?) after T1New is open?

What's the point then?
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T1New will only be partly done when it initally opens, the existing T1 is still in the way so they have to have somewhere to take the pax while they tear down old T1 (and some of T2) and build the new international pier (similarily the existing MLL arrangement is also temporary, there will be a closer lounge in the international pier when it opens). IHT is in use until at least 2008, probably longer.

I haven't departed from it yet so I don't know what that's like but I've arrived there and can't exactly complain, bus time was more than made up by a much shorter taxi time.

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Old Mar 15, 2004, 8:40 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by YEG Guy:
On to more important things. It looks like that the bus was good enough for AC passengers but is not good enough for WS types. WS still has the ability ot checkin passengers in TNew and bus them to T2. Then the passengers would get all the features of TNew and smart Fters could use the MLL. With WS only using T2 Checkin, the TNew MLL opportunity is out.</font>
Too bad for WS. They were never supposed to be in TNew when it opened, and now they are not. Good.
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Old Mar 15, 2004, 8:41 pm
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Why not give west Jet the IHT! AC can keep new T1 and T2 isnt that enough for AC to run everything?

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