AC carry-on baggage enforcement (2022 onwards)
Aug 16, 2022, 9:40 am
#16
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My brother-in-law and his wife travel extensively so are fully aware of size limits.
Aug 16, 2022, 9:41 am
#17
Join Date: Nov 2021
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A duffel bag can be shoved under the seat, even when it's oversized. But a rollie bag will need to go sideways in the overhead compartment, taking up the space of 2-3 bags, when it's wheels or handle jut out 1/2" too far.
Aug 16, 2022, 9:58 am
#18
Join Date: Sep 2015
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Went through YYZ T1 dom security last week. There were a couple of agents stationed at the entry to the security line, eyeing what people were taking through.
Aug 16, 2022, 10:17 am
#19
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Yes, you are correct my friend, there is a lot of room in these new bins. The issue is those who do not travel much or do not know how to travel, simply throw their bags any which way above and then sit down and try and figure out what they are doing. I cannot tell you how many times when in Y, and that would be in 19C, I wanted to get up and walk over to that kettle, fixed their bag position, and then slap them on the back of the head and tell them to do better! I know this may get me into trouble, but it would be effective!
Aug 16, 2022, 10:27 am
#20
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Did both bags have your SE luggage tags clearly visible? I would hope that all things being equal an FA would show some discretion and keep moving along and not bother an SE bag.
Aug 16, 2022, 10:41 am
#21
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The good thing that came out of this was when the cart came out, the same FA was serving and I smiled politely and said for my SE treat I will have the cashews but I will buy the cheese and fruit as well as the sandwich......Oh you are SE she said......she went to the in charge and came back ...........It was all free.
I will take this as a win.
But to your point, I failed to position both of my bags the correct way. So this is on me.
Aug 16, 2022, 7:14 pm
#22
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Yes, you are correct my friend, there is a lot of room in these new bins. The issue is those who do not travel much or do not know how to travel, simply throw their bags any which way above and then sit down and try and figure out what they are doing. I cannot tell you how many times when in Y, and that would be in 19C, I wanted to get up and walk over to that kettle, fixed their bag position, and then slap them on the back of the head and tell them to do better! I know this may get me into trouble, but it would be effective!
Aug 17, 2022, 10:58 am
#23
Join Date: May 2010
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When I last flew on the Max the gate agents were doing their usual pre boarding announcement, almost begging people to check their bags in and then she caught my attention...."especially if you are in ZONES 4,5 & 6" ... I like that, free checked bag for kettles, sweet.
On this flight I was a little entitled when the F/A asked who's bag (my go bag) was this, My go bag was snuggled along side my one only carry on, so I said mine. She asked or told me if i can place it under the seat Infront of me. I said sure, I can move my SE bag to allow for the Zone's 4/5/6 bag that may fly once in a while instead of me who is flying weekly. Sure I may have come across as one of those, but its a big plane, bags are place in every which way by those who never or hardly fly on the aircraft and the F/A are trying their best to manage, but they do fall behind. Tag them and place them in the hold when there are just too many bags near the end for boarding. Anyways, there seems to be a lot of creative and innovative new procedure to deal with the many bags passengers are bringing on.
On this flight I was a little entitled when the F/A asked who's bag (my go bag) was this, My go bag was snuggled along side my one only carry on, so I said mine. She asked or told me if i can place it under the seat Infront of me. I said sure, I can move my SE bag to allow for the Zone's 4/5/6 bag that may fly once in a while instead of me who is flying weekly. Sure I may have come across as one of those, but its a big plane, bags are place in every which way by those who never or hardly fly on the aircraft and the F/A are trying their best to manage, but they do fall behind. Tag them and place them in the hold when there are just too many bags near the end for boarding. Anyways, there seems to be a lot of creative and innovative new procedure to deal with the many bags passengers are bringing on.
Last edited by Adam Smith; Aug 17, 2022 at 11:07 am Reason: Merge consecutive posts by same user
Aug 17, 2022, 11:13 am
#24
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Aug 17, 2022, 1:46 pm
#25
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Am I crazy or did Air Canada use to allow business class passengers either 2 or 3 carryons (plus personal item)? I distinctly remember this being a thing, but I can't find any evidence of it.
Aug 17, 2022, 2:39 pm
#26
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Perhaps AC needs to articulate this benefit, given the madcap state of carry-on?
Aug 17, 2022, 4:03 pm
#27
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Just because you are SE, if the perk doesn't list "Priority carry on baggage treatment" you're simply acting as a DYKWIA
I've travelled as a status passenger and had another DYKWIA SE pull my bag out of the J bin, toss it on the floor and say his was more important. He nearly was booted off the plane.
If it's not a listed perk, no your bag is not more important than any other passengers unless it's a class of service or perk of your status.
I used to send a suitcase full of frozen chicken breasts from my favourite butcher on winter flights from YYZ to YYC after I moved. He'd freeze them up and load them in the suitcase and drop the suitcase for me an hour before my flight and they would arrive home fully frozen and no issue. Suitcase was *always* 69 pounds.
If I flew the same amount as you, but paid more for my ticket in the same class of service should I expect better treatment than you?
Last edited by Adam Smith; Aug 17, 2022 at 4:24 pm Reason: Merge consecutive posts by same user
Aug 17, 2022, 4:33 pm
#28
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If it's not listed as a perk, then no.
Just because you are SE, if the perk doesn't list "Priority carry on baggage treatment" you're simply acting as a DYKWIA
I've travelled as a status passenger and had another DYKWIA SE pull my bag out of the J bin, toss it on the floor and say his was more important. He nearly was booted off the plane.
If it's not a listed perk, no your bag is not more important than any other passengers unless it's a class of service or perk of your status.
Just because you are SE, if the perk doesn't list "Priority carry on baggage treatment" you're simply acting as a DYKWIA
I've travelled as a status passenger and had another DYKWIA SE pull my bag out of the J bin, toss it on the floor and say his was more important. He nearly was booted off the plane.
If it's not a listed perk, no your bag is not more important than any other passengers unless it's a class of service or perk of your status.
There's a difference between the childish behaviour you're describing and expecting a bit of leeway.
Aug 17, 2022, 4:45 pm
#29
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AC doesn't list upgrade priority anywhere. Does that mean an SE shouldn't expect to be upgraded ahead of a 25K? They don't list meal priority anywhere, so should meal orders just be taken based on where people are sitting?
There's a difference between the childish behaviour you're describing and expecting a bit of leeway.
There's a difference between the childish behaviour you're describing and expecting a bit of leeway.
Perhaps feeling entitled as a more frequent flyer to have "more rights" to space in the overhead bins is childish behaviour. You have space requirements like everyone else. If you don't follow them, I could care less if it's childish behaviour me saying something about it, it's more childish behaviour being the person with status and not following the rules.
If you want the peons in Y on basic fares to follow the rules, you should as well.
Aug 17, 2022, 4:55 pm
#30
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Just follow the RyanAir model for Y: pay for non-essentials. Simple. Hugely successful airline, largest in Europe. Let's not pretend people actually put their oversized "personal items" under the seats because many don't so your points about 1-2" difference are moot. Ys are budget travellers mostly indifferent to perks and care more about price. 1 personal item, zero carryon allowance. Problem solved.
In turn, there will be more leeway, perks for premium-cabin travellers and FFs who are interested in perks and comfort. They mostly would rather the perks to be offered than to have to ask for it, and look like a ......... in the process. Nobody wants to be a DYKWIA.
Less of the half-... trying to please everyone and ending up pissing off everyone like many of these legacy airlines.
In turn, there will be more leeway, perks for premium-cabin travellers and FFs who are interested in perks and comfort. They mostly would rather the perks to be offered than to have to ask for it, and look like a ......... in the process. Nobody wants to be a DYKWIA.
Less of the half-... trying to please everyone and ending up pissing off everyone like many of these legacy airlines.