EdmFlyBoi

YVR-TYO is unlikely to switch away from being a wide body. AC has run YVR-KIX off and on both with mainline and Rouge. It could certainly return with the XLR (although unlikely at the moment).

EdmFlyBoi

BOG is also a pretty big cargo destination - so agree it would stay as a wide body. LIM would be a good candidate to come back with the XLR.

ChrisA330

I believe the quoted 4700nm max range is with the optional forward ACT which takes up the space of 2 baggage/cargo containers. It remains to be seen if AC will take up that option.

lsquare

It would be nice whether this plane or any other future plane will help AC expand its tpac network.

ACYYZ/SD

Like BOG, LIM is a huge cargo destination. Scheduled pax flights slated to return on October 30th w/A330.

Stranger

YYC-CDG to compete with WS. Smaller plane since not much connecting traffic?

YUL_Around_The_World

Here is the map for YVR ... indeed ... Tokyo ... Seoul ... Madrid ... Paris ... Frankfurt ... Moscow A map from Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper

Adam Smith

AGAIN, 4,700 nm is NOT a useful figure for determining what routes AC might fly. 4,700 nm assumes maximum fuel, which means a severely restricted payload, and optimal flying conditions (no winds, no ETOPS restrictions, etc). The USEFUL range, i.e. what AC might actually use it for, is SIGNIFICANTLY less.

Take a look at the Aer Lingus figures in this article (their config is similar to AC's). An estimate of the XLR's practical range for a TATL flight, in AC's configuration, is more like 3,785 in summer and 3,535 in winter. YVR-DUB is 3,881 nm. YYC-CDG is 3,987. Both are outside what the aircraft is likely capable of doing even in the summer. (And that's setting aside @ChrisA330's point about whether AC will even order the extra fuel tank that makes that max range possible)

This aircraft will be great for eastern Canada to Europe - hopefully it will take over thin routes like YUL-BOD from the 7M8, maybe it will allow for more frequent service on secondary routes like YOW-LHR, etc. Routes like YVR-PTY and YVR-BOG are possible, although I'm not sure the demand is there. And it will definitely give AC the ability to put premium service on thinner routes that currently just get narrowbodies, increase the proportion of lie-flats on existing routes (e.g. YYC/YVR-YYZ, or remember when they announced the 2nd daily YVR-EWR on a MAX? XLR might be a nice one there), etc.

It's possible that AC could schedule some routes that really push the aircraft's envelope, or that other operators' real-world performance could expand the plane's envelope beyond current estimates, but it's highly unlikely that we see AC running anything other than eastern Canada to Europe and flights within North America / northern South America with the XLR. I will happily put money on not seeing any YYC/YVR/YEG-Europe flights on AC XLRs before 2027.

YVRtoYYZ

For those with access to PEP, the data is there to run flight plans with.

StuMcIlwain

The other thing to keep in mind is that with lie-flat seats, AC is going to be looking to use this aircraft on routes with premium traffic that can't support a widebody aircraft. Some leisure routes do have premium traffic, but it will need to be more than just upgraders and people willing to pay a few hundred extra for J.

canadiancow

Like all the existing PLH routes?

YUL/YYZ-SFO/LAX, YUL/YOW/YYZ-YYC/YEG/YVR ... am I missing any?

Stranger

You sure that's the case also of the XLR, not just the LR?

ChrisA330

Yes. The XLR has a permanent aft tank that replaces the LRs 2 aft tanks (but with greater volume, and less space), but the XLR still has an optional forward tank.

Stranger

The other issue here is engines. I believe the data quoted correspond to the 321XLR with Leap A1 engines. however the Pratt ones likely have a better efficiency already. Also more growth potential, but that is not necessarily rlevant here.

Aselwyn

A bunch of possible A321XLR Routes AC has said could happen

Possible 321XLR Routes