CBC Article - Mom, daughter kicked off Air Canada plane, not told they're banned
Aug 16, 2019, 1:02 pm
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But I gotta tell you: if I'm around someone who gets tossed from a plane, I'm going to remember the details. And I'd be happy to help out a reporter. Surely I'm not the only one.
Aug 16, 2019, 1:07 pm
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I'm trying to imagine what would happen if I'd pull my cell phone and started to record an altercation between the FA and a fellow passenger. Wouldn't I be the next person off the flight?
Aug 16, 2019, 1:23 pm
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Possibly however how many folks recorded the doctor getting dragged off the UA flight? How many videos are uploaded to YouTube daily with in-flight altercations? A cursory Google search found many so we know it happens.
Aug 16, 2019, 1:37 pm
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Aug 16, 2019, 1:38 pm
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Cameras are installed on buses and subway's for a reason, despite the wide spread use of smart phones. I'd suggest it would be in the airline's best interest to have cameras on their aircraft as well. The moral of the story in all these events, at least to me, is that it is unwise to make a stand on principle when on an aircraft. Regardless of how you feel about the amount of power given to airline staff, I'd rather just get to where I'm going.
Aug 16, 2019, 1:44 pm
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Aug 16, 2019, 1:52 pm
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Arguing with a FA is a no-win scenario.
Aug 16, 2019, 2:27 pm
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That doctor was ordered off the plane by security. He refused. The airline was wrong in how it handled the whole situation. However, I have no sympathy for him. If a FA, security, etc. ordered me off the plane, I’m getting off. I’ll discuss with the airline afterwords. I’m not going to delay the aircraft, passengers, risk getting banned, etc. If the airline does not resolve my situation to my satisfaction, I move my business elsewhere.
Arguing with a FA is a no-win scenario.
Do you comply, or do you say "I can't" ?
Aug 16, 2019, 2:27 pm
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I would like to BAN Air Canada from my Airlines that Provides Good Service list as well as Airlines would not Drag Passengers off Plane and Ban them for Life List.. Anyone here have any suggestion? Also, anyone have insights on how to tell Air Canada that they are effectively banned by me? 
Aug 16, 2019, 2:41 pm
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There is a multitude of threads on this site about unruly passengers. What we really need is a thread about unruly flight attendants.
Beware of big power in the hands of small people. That's what's really happening here.
Beware of big power in the hands of small people. That's what's really happening here.
Aug 16, 2019, 3:15 pm
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Why on earth would you not be allowed to use the toilet before take off and doors are closed ? what is the purpose of this ?
Aug 16, 2019, 4:08 pm
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What appears to have happened is that numerous seat changes occurred on the flight and the 22 year old got into an altercation with the FA because the 22 year old didn't understand that they can't refuse a request of the FA. Further mom and daughter thought they could win a Mexican standoff only to find out that police will be called to get them off the airplane. Finally, Mom and Daughter were probably made aware of the ban but didn't think that AC would actually enforce it. Mom and Daughter then book tickets on Lufthansa which resulted in flying on an AC codeshare FRA-YUL. They go to board at FRA and doc check confirms they are banned from flying on AC.
CBC reporters generally do their homework. That said the consumer affairs reporters will not fact check the poop out of the person's story, nor will they throw the person under the bus.
Aug 16, 2019, 4:14 pm
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Depending on aircraft type and electrical configuration, the toilet system (and bathroom lights) is not considered required equipment while on the ground. If the airplane is using ground power the toilette flush system is not activated on some types. On most current wide body aircraft the auxiliary power unit (which is connected to the toilette flush and bathroom lights) is activated while the aircraft is at the gate.
Aug 16, 2019, 4:19 pm
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I'd seek clarification on the physically impossible, rather then confront a uniform.
But my jam has always been insolence, silent or active, rather then aggressive confrontation.
But my jam has always been insolence, silent or active, rather then aggressive confrontation.