Shareholder

Was booking flights for a visit to Edmonton in mid-July and I opted for the 10a AC flight (AC175). Curiously, there is also a ROUGE flight at 10a (AC1575). Both show as 763s but the seat maps are different though I could only access the AC flight one after buying and selecting my seat. On the booking process I got a message that the seat chart was not available as it was not an AC flight. Very worrisome. But on the seat selection screen, the AC flight shows the 1-1-1 J cabin, the ROUGE flight preview seat chart shows 2-2-2. The pricing of J is higher for the AC flight rather than the ROUGE. So I can only assume these are different flights/planes to handle a peak travel period and off-set some 738Max flights. Or are the two the same flight? Don't want to have a rude awakening when I upgrade and find myself in ROUGE J instead of an AC J pod!

5mm

Sounds like AC175 will operate as a Rouge flight that day. You will/should receive a 20% discount code on your in Edmonton. For a shorter flight, Rouge J is fine.

asovse1

Curious about this coupon code...I took the rouged 175 last month and didn't see any opportunity to get the code. I'm on the rouged 175 again next month...how do I get one?

5mm

YXUFlyboy

Check the schedule carefully. For YYC, AC is running 3x763 (mainline), 3x763 (rouge) and a 789 intermingled with some narrowbodies. You might see a real 767-300ER on the YEG route if you want to avoid Rouge.

Shareholder

Did a bit more checking this morning and it appears the planes both return to YYZ, the AC at 1:10p an d the ROUGE at 1:25p. Definitely booked the AC version and guess it will be a game of roulette to discover what I'll actually be flying that morning. Main issue is that I'd like to use 8 eUpgrade credits if it is a mainline 763 but certainly not if a ROUGE plane. (Booked myself in Comfort, only a few dollars more than Flex, and expecting the promo upgrade chart is extended beyond the end of this month for the reduced levels of credits required.) Both flights are lightly booked at the moment.

ACYYZ/SD

Feel free to PM me. I randomly checked a few days in mid-July and the 1000am flights shows as AC165 (1000/1204) definitely a Mainline 767-300 (24J/187Y). There may have been a schedule alignment in progress when you checked.

The Rouge Flights appear to be:
AC1573 @ 0800 (763)
AC1577 @ 2100 (763)

yyznomad

And the latest timetable seems to agree:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31101481-post775.html

Shareholder

Thanks for this ACYYZ/SD, and yyznomad for your link. Guess the timing of my booking overlapped with finalizing the summer skid. (Suppose the people who booked the ROUGE flight will be moved onto the AC flight.)

Was chatting our old friend Craig at the shareholder's meeting last Monday about the logistics of redoing the summer schedule given the Max situation. He's now left Loyalty Marketing and is in Operations. Quite a task juggling planes (AC's and leased) with cabin crews and pilots and their ability to revert to different aircraft types.

yyznomad

The system timetable has been changing literally every week since the 7M8 groundings. Some routes have been affected much more than others. Expect more changes to come.

ACYYZ/SD

Considering 24 aircraft were yanked from service concurrent with the MAX grounding and a further 12 expected to be in service for the Summer peak, while not perfect nor convenient for everybody, operating 94% of the planned schedule is admirable.

Shareholder

Was checking this flight for next Wednesday. I had confirmed my eUpgrade at the 10-day mark but wanted to see what the J seat map looked like now as there were only three other seats selected. When I went to the app booking screen I couldn't find the 10a YYZ-YEG flight listed at all. (Checking several other days, it has also vanished.) I checked on the full AC website and again, it has vanished. When I checked My Bookings, the flight is still showing as an AC 763 non-stop (and not a Rouge flight as the 10s YYC flight shows on the booking screen, with a connection on a Q400 to YEG).

Using the app on my booking, and requesting the seat map, I get a message that because this is not an AC flight, it cannot be displayed!

So, would this all mean the flight is oversold? (Should I pull my eUpgrade and wait for an opup?) Is AC wet leasing 763s from another airline to offset the 738Max grounding? Any ideas?


As can be seen, no 10a nonstop

But appears not to be operated by AC (or Rouge)

And my booking shows no change (yet)

RangerNS

AC 165 is currently showing as canceled.

Lots of room on the Rouge flight earlier, or mainline flight later.

Shareholder

Thanks, I just did a check on the Flight Status and saw that. No protection booked yet so on the line with AC to rebook on the 12:35p.

Shareholder

And now the 10a is back, this time as a Rouge A321. Glad I changed to the mainline flight last night.

This 738Max replacement roulette is rather amusing to watch/play. In September I have three AA flights that even now show as Max so wonder what fun I'll go through with them?