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Can I Know This is Ticketed on Air Canada?

Old Feb 11, 19, 12:39 pm
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Can I Know This is Ticketed on Air Canada?

I'm planning to travel YYZ - DAR on the way out and JNB - YYZ on the way back.

When I search through Air Canada's site, I can find a nice itinerary for the outbound flight: YYZ - ZRH with Air Canada and ZRH - DAR with Swiss.

On the way back, though, I am not being given the option for JNB - ZRH on Swiss and ZRH - YYZ on AC. That return itinerary was available a few days ago, but has since disappeared. However, I can still get it by using Google Flights and then selecting Expedia or FlightNetwork.

Anyway, here's my question. If I book the itinerary below, will this all be an Air Canada ticket (014)? How can I know that before I actually purchase it via Expedia? I'd like to get the AQD if possible...

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Old Feb 11, 19, 12:49 pm
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Since both of your over-the-water (TATL) flights are operated by AC, it is most likely going to be ticketed on AC with 014 eticket numbers.
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Old Feb 11, 19, 1:06 pm
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Did a dummy booking, the default VC is AC.

Code:
     AL FLGT  BK   DATE  TIME  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA   BG
 YTO
XZRH AC   878 U *  26JUL 1805  UHA1RCE         26JUL26JUL 2P
 DAR LX   296 U *  27JUL 0955  UHA1RCE         27JUL27JUL 2P
 JNB      S U R F A C E
XZRH LX   289 B *  01AUG 1925  BFFE            01AUG01AUG 2P
 YTO AC   879 B *  02AUG 0940  BFFE            02AUG02AUG 2P

CAD  2895.00      26JUL19YTO AC X/ZRH LX DAR793.38/-JNB LX
                  X/ZRH AC YTO Q112.27 1261.18NUC2166.83END
CAD    25.91-CA   ROE1.336045
CAD   520.00-YQ   XT CAD 3.25-RC CAD 25.00-SQ CAD 42.36-CH
CAD   116.85-XT   CAD 2.30-EV CAD 23.24-ZA CAD 2.15-UM CAD
CAD  3557.76      18.55-WC
FARE FAMILIES:    (ENTER FQFn FOR DETAILS, FXY FOR UPSELL)

FARE FAMILY:FC1:1-2:FLEX                                                        
FARE FAMILY:FC2:4-5:LATITUDE                                                    
BG CXR: AC                                                                      
PRICED VC AC - OTHER VC AVAILABLE LX
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Old Feb 11, 19, 1:16 pm
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@gokeeper - which tool do you use to do that? I'm guessing I am not so privileged to use it
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Old Feb 11, 19, 1:21 pm
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Originally Posted by gokeeper View Post
Did a dummy booking, the default VC is AC.


Code:
AL FLGT BK DATE TIME FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
YTO
XZRH AC 878 U * 26JUL 1805 UHA1RCE 26JUL26JUL 2P
DAR LX 296 U * 27JUL 0955 UHA1RCE 27JUL27JUL 2P
JNB S U R F A C E
XZRH LX 289 B * 01AUG 1925 BFFE 01AUG01AUG 2P
YTO AC 879 B * 02AUG 0940 BFFE 02AUG02AUG 2P

CAD 2895.00 26JUL19YTO AC X/ZRH LX DAR793.38/-JNB LX
X/ZRH AC YTO Q112.27 1261.18NUC2166.83END
CAD 25.91-CA ROE1.336045
CAD 520.00-YQ XT CAD 3.25-RC CAD 25.00-SQ CAD 42.36-CH
CAD 116.85-XT CAD 2.30-EV CAD 23.24-ZA CAD 2.15-UM CAD
CAD 3557.76 18.55-WC
FARE FAMILIES: (ENTER FQFn FOR DETAILS, FXY FOR UPSELL)

FARE FAMILY:FC1:1-2:FLEX
FARE FAMILY:FC2:4-5:LATITUDE
BG CXR: AC
PRICED VC AC - OTHER VC AVAILABLE LX
Thanks for that.

Any speculation on what it doesn't show up as an option on AirCanada.com? I am attempting to book it in business class, so perhaps that's part of it...
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Old Feb 11, 19, 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by TheCanuckian View Post
Thanks for that.

Any speculation on what it doesn't show up as an option on AirCanada.com? I am attempting to book it in business class, so perhaps that's part of it...
Business class cost $6196 for P/Z class, have you tried seg by seg on AC.com? May be you'll have to call in or find a TA if that doesn't work either.

Code:
AL FLGT  BK   DATE  TIME  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA   BG                    
 YTO                                                                            
XZRH AC   878 P *  26JUL 1805  PWRCT28         26JUL26JUL 2P                    
 DAR LX   296 P *  27JUL 0955  PWRCT28         27JUL27JUL 2P                    
 JNB      S U R F A C E                                                         
XZRH LX   289 Z *  01AUG 1925  ZRC28           01AUG01AUG 2P                    
 YTO AC   879 Z *  02AUG 0940  ZRC28           02AUG02AUG 2P                    
                                                                                
CAD  5024.00      26JUL19YTO AC X/ZRH LX DAR1160.14/-JNB LX                     
                  X/ZRH AC YTO2600.21NUC3760.35END ROE                          
CAD    25.91-CA   1.336045                                                      
CAD  1030.00-YQ   XT CAD 3.25-RC CAD 25.00-SQ CAD 42.36-CH                      
CAD   116.85-XT   CAD 2.30-EV CAD 23.24-ZA CAD 2.15-UM CAD                      
CAD  6196.76      18.55-WC
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Old Feb 11, 19, 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by dr_torch View Post
@gokeeper - which tool do you use to do that? I'm guessing I am not so privileged to use it
It's Amadeus, a reservation system for TA.
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Old Feb 11, 19, 2:04 pm
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OP, you can also try calling AC and booking over the phone. They should be able to get you the same price and then you don't have all the negatives of having booked through a 3rd party.
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Old Feb 11, 19, 7:00 pm
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Originally Posted by gokeeper View Post
Business class cost $6196 for P/Z class, have you tried seg by seg on AC.com? May be you'll have to call in or find a TA if that doesn't work either.
Don't give up your day job @gokeeper. You only overpaid by 2000$

NO NAMES
1 AC 878P 26JUL YYZZRH SS1 1805 0740 +* FR/SA E
2 LX 296P 27JUL ZRHDAR SS1 0955 2105 * SA E
3 LX 289P 01AUG JNBZRH SS1 1925 0610 +* TH/FR E
4 AC 879P 02AUG ZRHYYZ SS1 0940 1210 * FR E

YTO AC X/ZRH LX DAR 1160.14PWRCT28 /-JNB LX X/ZRH AC YTO
1057.97PRCT47 NUC2218.11END ROE1.336045
FARE CAD 2963.00 TAX 25.91CA TAX 25.00SQ TAX 42.40CH TAX 2.30EV
TAX 2.10UM TAX 18.50WC TAX 23.20ZA TAX 3.25RC TAX 1030.00YQ TOT
CAD 4135.66
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Old Feb 12, 19, 12:58 am
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Thanks for your consideration, I am trying to let OP know the price before he give AC a call, I mean the actual one he can get from AC without inventory violation. Sure you can get P on JNB-ZRH-YYZ by booking segment by segment, however...guess that's not a big deal for you.

Code:
 1 AC 878P 26JUL F YYZZRH SS1   605P  740A  27JUL J /DCAC /E    
 2 LX 296P 27JUL J ZRHDAR SS1   955A  905P /DCLX /E             
 3 LX 289P 01AUG Q JNBZRH SS1   725P  610A  02AUG F /DCLX /E    
 4 AC 879P 02AUG F ZRHYYZ SS1   940A 1210P /DCAC /E             
26JUL DEPARTURE DATE-----LAST DAY TO PURCHASE 14FEB/2359        
       BASE FARE                 TAXES/FEES/CHARGES    TOTAL    
 1-   CAD2963.00                   1172.98XT      CAD4135.98ADT 
    XT   1030.00YQ      25.91CA      25.00SQ       3.25RC       
           42.50CH      23.28ZA      18.58WC       2.31EV       
            2.15UM                                              
         2963.00                   1172.98           4135.98TTL 
ADT-01  PWRCT28 PRCT47
Originally Posted by ABG View Post
Don't give up your day job @gokeeper. You only overpaid by 2000$

NO NAMES
1 AC 878P 26JUL YYZZRH SS1 1805 0740 +* FR/SA E
2 LX 296P 27JUL ZRHDAR SS1 0955 2105 * SA E
3 LX 289P 01AUG JNBZRH SS1 1925 0610 +* TH/FR E
4 AC 879P 02AUG ZRHYYZ SS1 0940 1210 * FR E

YTO AC X/ZRH LX DAR 1160.14PWRCT28 /-JNB LX X/ZRH AC YTO
1057.97PRCT47 NUC2218.11END ROE1.336045
FARE CAD 2963.00 TAX 25.91CA TAX 25.00SQ TAX 42.40CH TAX 2.30EV
TAX 2.10UM TAX 18.50WC TAX 23.20ZA TAX 3.25RC TAX 1030.00YQ TOT
CAD 4135.66
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Old Feb 12, 19, 6:05 am
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Back to the original question, do I understand correctly that the answer to my question (Will this be ticketed on AC?) is a solid "probably?" Or can I have any assurance? Before booking via Expedia, I'll call AC to see if they can book it for me...
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Old Feb 12, 19, 7:08 am
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Originally Posted by TheCanuckian View Post
Back to the original question, do I understand correctly that the answer to my question (Will this be ticketed on AC?) is a solid "probably?" Or can I have any assurance? Before booking via Expedia, I'll call AC to see if they can book it for me...
Yes, as I mentioned in post #3 , the default validating carrier of this itinerary is AC, you will get 014 stock ticket unless they override this option which is unlikely.
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Old Feb 12, 19, 7:13 am
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Call AC and tell them the flight numbers and fare code you want.
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Old Feb 12, 19, 9:04 am
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Originally Posted by gokeeper View Post
however...guess that's not a big deal for you.
It isn't for AC/LX either as there is no married seg logic between these carriers. Air Canada's call centre would book it the same manner most likely their systems are very antiquated.
I don't understand why you'd post how to get a higher fare
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Old Feb 12, 19, 11:06 am
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Originally Posted by ABG View Post
It isn't for AC/LX either as there is no married seg logic between these carriers. Air Canada's call centre would book it the same manner most likely their systems are very antiquated.
I don't understand why you'd post how to get a higher fare
LOL, looks like Matrix, Google flight, Expedia, as well as a whole bunch of OTAs are as greedy as me. @ABG
Married segments isn't the only way to do inventory control. TA 101: Always use O&D when looking for availability.

PS: I won't post any more reply in this thread since I already answered OP's question and I am busy with my day job



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