Iceland's WOW air sells four A321ceo to Air Canada
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Delta did receive AC's 6 L-1011's (Fins 551-556).
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WOW indeed! You are a bottomless pit of information. What a resource you are.
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noted on Eastern. I was in my mid teens when I flow these birds and couldn’t remember 100% on the US airline.
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She does look pretty I guess until you step inside. Seatguru (I know, not the bible) describes them as having 30-31 x 17 seat dimensions... Calin must be delighted..). A transcon in one of these babies will make us begging for Y in the back of a 787! Unless of course AC has plans to ensure every seat (all 200 of them) has a 31" pitch...
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Depending on who you believe, it's both related AND non-related to the 737 MAX grounding
Source: CTV News
Air Canada said Tuesday that it will accelerate the in-take of Airbus A321 aircraft that it recently acquired from Wow Airlines, which announced the four-plane sale in December.
Source: CTV News
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Those are the business capitals of Canada and those flights are stuffed with people on paid J fares and expensive Y fares (Flex/Comfort/Latitude). Even if there are 50 FOTSGs on Tango fares on a 146-seat 320, it's not a "leisure-heavy" route.
Back to the point I made, AC operates what, 15-20 daily YVR-YYZ. Substituting all-Y for a 4-6 flights isn't going to cause any problems for its customer base. J customers will have to spend an extra hour in the lounge. No big deal.
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Because its the truth. They are high volume leisure heavy routes.. The people who travel to Florida are most likely more money'ed on average than those on YVR/YYC-YYZ. WestJet built a fabulous business recognizing that most travel was in fact leisure within Canada, and that the business traveler was either practically non-existent, or completely neutered by their employer in being able to buy business-appropriate fares. Business travel has collapsed over the past 20 years as a percentage of the demand base of the airline industry generally.
50? More like 100+. Hence the trends we've seen over the past 20 years, towards almost no premium seats, towards extreme density in Y, and towards de-bundling.
Back to the point I made, AC operates what, 15-20 daily YVR-YYZ. Substituting all-Y for a 4-6 flights isn't going to cause any problems for its customer base. J customers will have to spend an extra hour in the lounge. No big deal.
50? More like 100+. Hence the trends we've seen over the past 20 years, towards almost no premium seats, towards extreme density in Y, and towards de-bundling.
Back to the point I made, AC operates what, 15-20 daily YVR-YYZ. Substituting all-Y for a 4-6 flights isn't going to cause any problems for its customer base. J customers will have to spend an extra hour in the lounge. No big deal.
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There was also one yesterday. And will be another tomorrow. And the next day. And so on...
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Where are you getting your info from? AC’s Florida routes are equal to their HI routes. Largely Leisure, booked far in advance, low fare. Pax may have a lot personal wealth, but they are not spending it on airline tickets. YVR-YYZ route is AC second most profitable business travel route. YYC-YYZ is AC’s fourth most profitable(Dom)business route. These routes are not considered leisure routes at all by AC.
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Could AC buy/lease a couple more 321s?
Icelandair Backs Out Of WOW Air Deal (For The Second Time)
March 24 2019
https://onemileatatime.com/icelandair-wow-air-deal-off/
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https://newsclient.omxgroup.com/cdsP...881012&lang=en
Icelandair Backs Out Of WOW Air Deal (For The Second Time)
March 24 2019
https://onemileatatime.com/icelandair-wow-air-deal-off/
with link to
https://newsclient.omxgroup.com/cdsP...881012&lang=en
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Eeeek. Anyone think AC can "buy" some of these aircraft?
QUOTE:
"...apparently one of WOW Air’s A321s, TF-PRO, was repossessed in Montreal last night, due to lack of payments. The airline has subsequently sent TF-DOG to Montreal to operate the flight. That plane is now there, but also hasn’t departed."
WOW Air Cancels Flights After Aircraft Repossession - March 25 2019
https://onemileatatime.com/wow-air-repossession/
QUOTE:
"...apparently one of WOW Air’s A321s, TF-PRO, was repossessed in Montreal last night, due to lack of payments. The airline has subsequently sent TF-DOG to Montreal to operate the flight. That plane is now there, but also hasn’t departed."
WOW Air Cancels Flights After Aircraft Repossession - March 25 2019
https://onemileatatime.com/wow-air-repossession/