Possible New Long Haul Air Canada Routes in the next 5 years
Oct 12, 2018, 11:39 am
#16
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I totally see where you are coming from but I'd disagree by saying that there are two large links between Calgary and China, the first being Oil & Gas business connections (which brings lots of premium passengers), and the second being the hordes of (often well off) Chinese tourists who flock to Banff. I think AC operating non-stop between YYC and any 2 of HKG/PVG/PEK with the 787 2-3 times weekly could be quite profitable.
As far as Asian tourism to Canada, I'm aware of the seasonal tourism peaks to places like Yellowknife (northern lights), Algonquin (fall colours) and Banff, but with the very short natural seasons for these types of trips I'm inclined to think that highly-targeted and low-cost services along the lines of the summer 1x weekly Condor flights to YXY would serve demand better than a year-round Air Canada mainline route.
Oct 12, 2018, 12:07 pm
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Oct 12, 2018, 12:17 pm
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As far as Asian tourism to Canada, I'm aware of the seasonal tourism peaks to places like Yellowknife (northern lights), Algonquin (fall colours) and Banff, but with the very short natural seasons for these types of trips I'm inclined to think that highly-targeted and low-cost services along the lines of the summer 1x weekly Condor flights to YXY would serve demand better than a year-round Air Canada mainline route.
Oct 12, 2018, 12:58 pm
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Same here. The B789 can fly from YYZ to both JNB and CPT. If AC wanted routes to SA from the west coast, though, they would need to buy A350-900ULR (in my original post I mentioned how a non-stop YVR-CPT flight would be great).
I understand there are reasons why it won’t hapoen, but if AC bought a dozen A350-900ULR they could run daily flights from YVR-CPT, YYZ-SYD, and YYZ-SIN, and it would really expand their global reach.
I understand there are reasons why it won’t hapoen, but if AC bought a dozen A350-900ULR they could run daily flights from YVR-CPT, YYZ-SYD, and YYZ-SIN, and it would really expand their global reach.
Oct 12, 2018, 2:36 pm
#21
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I wonder if AC could make a seasonal YHZ-FRA work with a 737MAX to compete with Condor. This route is already popular with German tourists, and it would allow easier *A connections to Europe/Middle East without backtracking to YUL/YYZ.
Oct 12, 2018, 3:04 pm
#22
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Then again, if Colombians and Peruvians are desperate to avoid the USA when travelling to Asia, they really don't have a lot of good options other than to use AC.
Oct 12, 2018, 5:32 pm
#23
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I thought of LIM-YVR, BOG-YVR, but the 73M can't do it, and filling a 788 or A330 might be quite a stretch economics-wise. Even an A321LR Neo wouldn't do. These are rare routes for which the hypothetical Boeing "MoM" aircraft (ie: a 757 replacement) would be needed. Or the 767 I guess.
Then again, if Colombians and Peruvians are desperate to avoid the USA when travelling to Asia, they really don't have a lot of good options other than to use AC.
Then again, if Colombians and Peruvians are desperate to avoid the USA when travelling to Asia, they really don't have a lot of good options other than to use AC.
Oct 12, 2018, 5:49 pm
#24
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Further, as I suggested yesterday, there is a fascinating discussion on the UA forum about the demographics, fares, and all other matters related to the U.S. flights to SIN on SQ and UA. AC is not UA or SQ. Canada is not the U.S.
Suggestions for possible new routes for AC is very different than what is realistic for AC based on customer base, costs, pricing and so on. IMHO.
Oct 12, 2018, 5:49 pm
#25
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I can see the following:
YVR-SIN
YUL-HKG
YYZ-IST (once the new airport is fully operational)
Looking back over the last few years, AC has really expanded quite a bit, and its exciting to imagine whats next!
YVR-SIN
YUL-HKG
YYZ-IST (once the new airport is fully operational)
Looking back over the last few years, AC has really expanded quite a bit, and its exciting to imagine whats next!
Oct 13, 2018, 10:26 am
#26
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YVR-SCL would be most welcome.
Anecdotally, the last flights in/out of there I was one most of the J cabin were going to/from YVR anyway. Surprise, surprise, they (other than me and my colleague) all worked for mining companies.
Anecdotally, the last flights in/out of there I was one most of the J cabin were going to/from YVR anyway. Surprise, surprise, they (other than me and my colleague) all worked for mining companies.
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Oct 13, 2018, 10:34 am
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Oct 13, 2018, 11:45 am
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Exactly this. With the current political climate in the US, it's a good time for AC to expand into Central/South America to offer travellers connections to Asia and Europe without needing to transit the US.