typical load factors on Ac126 and AC033?
Sep 26, 2018, 9:35 pm
#1
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typical load factors on Ac126 and AC033?
Hi Everyone,
I currently fly YUL - YHM (or YYZ) every week or so. I’ll be moving out west for a while. My company pays for Y fare
Took a look at the flights I’d probably be taking, and they’re AC 126 (YVR-YYZ) and AC033 (YYZ-YVR)
Does anyone know how often these planes are full? I don’t mind Y for an hour flight, but for 5 hours.. I’d probably spring for PE if I wanted to be comfortable. But if the back of the plane isn’t really full, then I can save some money...
I currently fly YUL - YHM (or YYZ) every week or so. I’ll be moving out west for a while. My company pays for Y fare
Took a look at the flights I’d probably be taking, and they’re AC 126 (YVR-YYZ) and AC033 (YYZ-YVR)
Does anyone know how often these planes are full? I don’t mind Y for an hour flight, but for 5 hours.. I’d probably spring for PE if I wanted to be comfortable. But if the back of the plane isn’t really full, then I can save some money...
Sep 26, 2018, 10:16 pm
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Hi Everyone,
I currently fly YUL - YHM (or YYZ) every week or so. I’ll be moving out west for a while. My company pays for Y fare
Took a look at the flights I’d probably be taking, and they’re AC 126 (YVR-YYZ) and AC033 (YYZ-YVR)
Does anyone know how often these planes are full? I don’t mind Y for an hour flight, but for 5 hours.. I’d probably spring for PE if I wanted to be comfortable. But if the back of the plane isn’t really full, then I can save some money...
I currently fly YUL - YHM (or YYZ) every week or so. I’ll be moving out west for a while. My company pays for Y fare
Took a look at the flights I’d probably be taking, and they’re AC 126 (YVR-YYZ) and AC033 (YYZ-YVR)
Does anyone know how often these planes are full? I don’t mind Y for an hour flight, but for 5 hours.. I’d probably spring for PE if I wanted to be comfortable. But if the back of the plane isn’t really full, then I can save some money...
Sep 27, 2018, 12:13 am
#3
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
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There are very rarely empty seats on this route.The airline manages the capacity and maximizes revenue with every lever they have. Equally, if you are not 75K or 100K, and you want to use e-upgrades, you pretty much need to pay for a Latitude Fare.
Sep 27, 2018, 7:39 am
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AC33 is usually very full, in all three cabins, as the flight goes onward to SYD.
As @yyznomad mentioned, 126, 128 depends on the day of the week. Based on my limited experience, 126, 128 usually have a few empty J/PY seats mid week, buy Y seems to be full all the time.
Another thing you may consider is that, AC126/128 usually lands much earlier than scheduled. the gate to gate time is usually under 4 hours. So Y may be survivable, I did it once in the preferred seat when AC156 was operated by A320.
As @yyznomad mentioned, 126, 128 depends on the day of the week. Based on my limited experience, 126, 128 usually have a few empty J/PY seats mid week, buy Y seems to be full all the time.
Another thing you may consider is that, AC126/128 usually lands much earlier than scheduled. the gate to gate time is usually under 4 hours. So Y may be survivable, I did it once in the preferred seat when AC156 was operated by A320.
Sep 27, 2018, 9:17 am
#5
Join Date: Mar 2016
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I am flying both this week and one thing I noticed was that even though both have a good amount of revenue tickets available for sale, AC033 has R0 space for upgrades while AC126 has R5 so if you are looking to upgrade you may not have as much luck on AC33. My first world issue is I have enough credits left to upgrade 1 of the flights only....but the decision as to which one to upgrade might be made for me if there continues to be no space on AC33!
Sep 27, 2018, 10:26 am
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Agree about lack of AC033 upgrade space in general. Dunno if there are too many SEs on that route or it's a spillover effect from PAX connecting to SYD.
Often I can get the upgrade on AC129, but that's usually my last resort backstop for misconnects onto AC033. Another reason I'm glad my travel via YYZ is decreasing.
Often I can get the upgrade on AC129, but that's usually my last resort backstop for misconnects onto AC033. Another reason I'm glad my travel via YYZ is decreasing.
Last edited by Bohemian1; Sep 27, 2018 at 10:41 am
Sep 27, 2018, 10:30 am
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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AC033
Thank goodness you didn't say 118 and 033. You would be a competitor on my go to route 
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I have flown on 033 quite a few times this year (maybe 6). Love getting in a full day of work in Toronto and then being able to get home for bed in Vancouver.
I use flight passes and have always had a complimentary upgrade to business class (knock on wood). I would assume this means that the business class is usually not that full of paid fares (at least on the YYZ to YVR portion of the flight). My upgrade occurs about 3-4 days before the flight.
One thing about 033 is that I experience a delay (usually within 30 minutes) most of the time. I fly during the back end of the week (Thursday or Friday).
.I have flown on 033 quite a few times this year (maybe 6). Love getting in a full day of work in Toronto and then being able to get home for bed in Vancouver.
I use flight passes and have always had a complimentary upgrade to business class (knock on wood). I would assume this means that the business class is usually not that full of paid fares (at least on the YYZ to YVR portion of the flight). My upgrade occurs about 3-4 days before the flight.
One thing about 033 is that I experience a delay (usually within 30 minutes) most of the time. I fly during the back end of the week (Thursday or Friday).
Sep 27, 2018, 10:36 am
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The only pattern I've noticed with YYZ-YVR and vice versa is that the first few morning flights YYZ => YVR don't always seem to pack up 100%. Everything else, space seems scarce. But folks who actually fly this route often probably have better insights than I.
Just as a snapshot, here's what ExpertFlyer says re availability on these routes for tomorrow (Friday, 28 Sept) at the moment. Of course, it's only one day, and a Friday at that, so take it with a grain of salt.
YYZ to YVR
YVR to YYZ
Just as a snapshot, here's what ExpertFlyer says re availability on these routes for tomorrow (Friday, 28 Sept) at the moment. Of course, it's only one day, and a Friday at that, so take it with a grain of salt.
YYZ to YVR
Code:
AC 101 YYZ 7:00 AM YVR 8:48 AM 789 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 R5 O9 E9 N9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 G9 S9 T9 L9 A9 K9 AC 183 YYZ 7:30 AM YVR 9:22 AM 77W J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 R9 O9 E9 N9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 G9 S9 T9 L9 A9 K9 AC 103 YYZ 8:00 AM YVR 9:52 AM 77W J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 O4 E4 N3 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 G9 S9 T9 L9 A9 K9 AC 105 YYZ 9:00 AM YVR 11:02 AM 7M8 J1 C1 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W8 G6 S4 T1 L0 A0 K0 AC 185 YYZ 9:30 AM YVR 11:32 AM 321 J4 C4 D4 Z3 P2 R2 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V7 W6 G5 S3 T2 L0 A0 K0 AC 107 YYZ 10:00 AM YVR 12:02 PM 321 J1 C1 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V7 W5 G3 S1 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 111 YYZ 12:00 PM YVR 2:02 PM 321 J3 C3 D3 Z0 P0 R0 Y9 B9 M9 U7 H5 Q1 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 113 YYZ 1:00 PM YVR 3:02 PM 321 J2 C2 D1 Z0 P0 R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V7 W5 G2 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 115 YYZ 2:30 PM YVR 4:32 PM 321 J1 C1 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y9 B9 M9 U8 H6 Q1 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 117 YYZ 3:20 PM YVR 5:22 PM 7M8 J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y3 B1 M1 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 119 YYZ 4:00 PM YVR 6:02 PM 321 J2 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y9 B8 M7 U3 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 123 YYZ 6:00 PM YVR 7:52 PM 77W J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 O5 E5 N1 Y9 B9 M5 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 33 YYZ 8:15 PM YVR 10:07 PM 77L J2 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 O9 E8 N5 Y9 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 F0 AC 129 YYZ 10:30 PM YVR 12:32 AM 320 J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y9 B7 M6 U2 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0
Code:
AC 102 YVR 7:00 AM YYZ 2:25 PM 321 J1 C1 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y5 B3 M3 U1 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 106 YVR 8:00 AM YYZ 3:19 PM 77W J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 O0 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q4 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 34 YVR 9:00 AM YYZ 4:19 PM 77L J2 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 O8 E5 N2 Y9 B9 M8 U4 H1 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 F0 AC 110 YVR 10:00 AM YYZ 5:25 PM 321 J1 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y9 B9 M8 U6 H4 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 112 YVR 11:00 AM YYZ 6:19 PM 77W J3 C2 D0 Z0 P0 R0 O0 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H5 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 114 YVR 12:00 PM YYZ 7:25 PM 7M8 J4 C3 D3 Z1 P0 R0 Y9 B9 M9 U8 H7 Q3 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 184 YVR 12:30 PM YYZ 7:55 PM 321 J7 C6 D6 Z4 P3 R1 Y9 B9 M9 U8 H7 Q4 V1 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 118 YVR 1:15 PM YYZ 8:32 PM 789 J9 C9 D9 Z6 P5 R0 O4 E4 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q8 V2 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 116 YVR 2:00 PM YYZ 9:25 PM 321 J6 C5 D5 Z2 P1 R0 Y9 B9 M9 U8 H6 Q2 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 186 YVR 3:00 PM YYZ 10:25 PM 321 J2 C1 D1 Z0 P0 R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 G6 S4 T1 L0 A0 K0 AC 120 YVR 4:00 PM YYZ 11:25 PM 321 J2 C1 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 G9 S7 T3 L2 A0 K0 AC 122 YVR 5:30 PM YYZ 12:55 AM 321 J2 C2 D2 Z0 P0 R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 G9 S9 T7 L6 A4 K1 AC 124 YVR 6:15 PM YYZ 1:40 AM 7M8 J1 C1 D0 Z0 P0 R0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q5 V1 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 AC 126 YVR 10:20 PM YYZ 5:39 AM 77W J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 O9 E9 N7 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V6 W2 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0
Sep 27, 2018, 10:57 am
#9
Join Date: Jan 2018
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Expect this flight to be full, I rarely have an empty seat next to me in Y on YVR-YYZ flights.
Someone posted recently YVR-YYZ route for AC being their highest earning route, nearly half a billion / yr
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