Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Air Canada | Aeroplan
Reload this Page >

Air Canada Reports First Quarter 2018 Results

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Air Canada Reports First Quarter 2018 Results

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 30, 2018, 4:39 am
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Calgary
Programs: Aeroplan (Silver), Air Miles, IHG Rewards (Platinum)
Posts: 669
Air Canada Reports First Quarter 2018 Results

2018 Q1 Results are out!

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2018...r-2018-Results
YYC009 is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2018, 5:35 am
  #2  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: AC
Posts: 2,167
"in the first quarter of 2017, Air Canada recorded a provision of $30 million relating to a fine which was reinstated by a decision of the European Commission pertaining to cargo investigations. Air Canada paid the fine in the second quarter of 2017, pending the outcome of its appeal of the decision."

What fine was this?
longtimeflyin is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2018, 6:09 am
  #3  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: YEG
Programs: HH Silver
Posts: 56,466
Originally Posted by longtimeflyin
"in the first quarter of 2017, Air Canada recorded a provision of $30 million relating to a fine which was reinstated by a decision of the European Commission pertaining to cargo investigations. Air Canada paid the fine in the second quarter of 2017, pending the outcome of its appeal of the decision."

What fine was this?
Update: EU reimposes €21 million cargo cartel fine on AC
longtimeflyin likes this.
tcook052 is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2018, 6:23 am
  #4  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Calgary
Programs: Aeroplan (Silver), Air Miles, IHG Rewards (Platinum)
Posts: 669
Impressed load factors up over 2 percentage points YOY, especially with the capacity increase.

Analyst call begins in a few moments...
YYC009 is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2018, 9:13 am
  #5  
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,369
A few other tidbits in the MD&A:

"In April 2018, Air Canada concluded an amendment to its Boeing 737 purchase agreement, pursuant to which certain aircraft delivery positions were accelerated and others deferred. The amendment accelerates the delivery of five 737 MAX aircraft by one year, to 2020, and defers the delivery of 11 737 MAX aircraft by up to 36 months."

They coincidentally have 11 737MAX9 aircraft on order, and based on other language in the MD&A, I'm inferring the A321s are not going the same way as the A319/320.

"Reconfiguration of Airbus A330 Aircraft
In order to provide customers with a product that is consistent across its wide-body fleet, Air Canada plans on reconfiguring 12 Airbus A330 aircraft (eight of which are currently in service and four scheduled to be added in 2019) to the new Boeing 787 state-of-the-art standard. The reconfiguration of the Airbus A330 aircraft is expected to begin in late 2019 for completion in the first half of 2020. The capital expenditure related to this refurbishment program (which is included in the table below) is approximately $275 million."
ChrisA330 is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2018, 9:34 am
  #6  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: AC
Posts: 2,167
Originally Posted by ChrisA330
"Reconfiguration of Airbus A330 Aircraft
In order to provide customers with a product that is consistent across its wide-body fleet, Air Canada plans on reconfiguring 12 Airbus A330 aircraft (eight of which are currently in service and four scheduled to be added in 2019) to the new Boeing 787 state-of-the-art standard. The reconfiguration of the Airbus A330 aircraft is expected to begin in late 2019 for completion in the first half of 2020. The capital expenditure related to this refurbishment program (which is included in the table below) is approximately $275 million."
So presumably we'll get the 787/777 J class seats on the 330 soon, but not for the 767?
longtimeflyin is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2018, 9:38 am
  #7  
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, DL GM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,833
Originally Posted by longtimeflyin
So presumably we'll get the 787/777 J class seats on the 330 soon, but not for the 767?
The 767s are going to be gone very soon, no refurbishment.
longtimeflyin likes this.
Adam Smith is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2018, 10:06 am
  #8  
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,369
Originally Posted by longtimeflyin
So presumably we'll get the 787/777 J class seats on the 330 soon, but not for the 767?
There will only be 1 767 in the fleet by the time the reconfig of the A330s begins.
longtimeflyin likes this.
ChrisA330 is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2018, 10:43 am
  #9  
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Vancouver
Programs: Aeroplan, Mileage Plus, WestJet Gold, AMEX Plat
Posts: 2,026
Originally Posted by ChrisA330


There will only be 1 767 in the fleet by the time the reconfig of the A330s begins.
What is it with that 1 767 remaining? I can understand operating a sub-fleet, but a fleet of 1 even with the other aircraft in Rouge is silly. Is this some aircraft that is tied up in some weird leases that they can't get out from?
Fiordland is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2018, 10:43 am
  #10  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: AC
Posts: 2,167
Originally Posted by Fiordland
What is it with that 1 767 remaining? I can understand operating a sub-fleet, but a fleet of 1 even with the other aircraft in Rouge is silly. Is this some aircraft that is tied up in some weird leases that they can't get out from?
I seem to remember it was a wet lease?
longtimeflyin is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2018, 12:10 pm
  #11  
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,369
Originally Posted by Fiordland
What is it with that 1 767 remaining? I can understand operating a sub-fleet, but a fleet of 1 even with the other aircraft in Rouge is silly. Is this some aircraft that is tied up in some weird leases that they can't get out from?
It's just the way the fleet plan is captured. It only goes to Dec 31, 2019. For all we know the last 767 could be retired on Jan 1, 2020.
ChrisA330 is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2018, 1:13 pm
  #12  
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, DL GM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,833
Originally Posted by longtimeflyin
I seem to remember it was a wet lease?
AC isn't wet leasing any planes - wet lease involves the lessor providing crew etc.
​​​​​​
As Chris A330 has already pointed out, this is likely just a timing quirk - if we had a monthly breakdown, it would probably look smoother. It may or may not have anything to do with a lease expiry.
longtimeflyin likes this.
Adam Smith is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2018, 1:18 pm
  #13  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: YEG
Programs: HH Silver
Posts: 56,466
Air Canada says its new loyalty program will help to increase share price further | CBC News

Air Canada says its new loyalty program will help to increase share price further
tcook052 is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2018, 1:20 pm
  #14  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
Programs: AC*SE100K, wood level status in various other programs
Posts: 6,255
Originally Posted by tcook052
Air Canada says its new loyalty program will help to increase share price further
"But he said its decision not to renew its Aeroplan partnership will deliver up to about $2.5 billion of value for investors."


​​​​​​​I'm curious as to how they arrive at such an apparently large number.
Bohemian1 is online now  
Old Apr 30, 2018, 2:10 pm
  #15  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Calgary
Programs: Aeroplan (Silver), Air Miles, IHG Rewards (Platinum)
Posts: 669
Could be that the B767 is retiring just after 2020 or that AC will keep it for parts for its B767 Rouge fleet, training, emergency response drills, etc..
YYC009 is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.