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Same Day Changes & Standby

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What Are Same Day Change and Standby? Back to top

Q: What are Same Day Change and Standby?
A:
Same Day Changes (often called “SDC”) and Standby (sometimes referred to as “SBY”) involve taking a different flight from the one you were originally booked on without re-booking your itinerary, with no fare difference, and without the change fees normally applicable to your fare (specific SDC/standby fees are charged, as detailed below)
  • Same Day Change is where you immediately confirm a seat on a new flight or flights. As soon as you execute an SDC, your seat on your original flight is gone. You can change to either an earlier or later flight on the same day (see below for details)
  • Standby is when you put yourself on a waitlist for an earlier flight. The standby list is processed after check-in for that flight closes. Until you clear standby on a new flight, you continue to hold a seat on your original flight

Q: So can I use SDC or standby to fly to a different destination? Or fly from a different origin?
A:
No, this just allows you to change flights between the same origin and destination, with limited exceptions for co-terminals (e.g. YYZ/YTZ or LGA/JFK/EWR; see the applicable Routing section)

Q: Are all flights eligible for SDC and standby?
A: It depends on fare and market
. Markets are defined immediately below. For additional information, see the applicable Eligibility & Cost section

Q: What are the “markets”?
A:
  • Domestic (flights within Canada)
  • Transborder (flights between Canada and the US)
  • Sun (flights between Canada and everywhere else in North America)
  • International (everything else)

Q: Does it matter how I booked my ticket?
A:
  • It matters which airline sold your ticket (details in the applicable section)
  • It doesn’t matter how you paid for your ticket (cash vs points vs flight pass credit), although it may impact the cost

Q: Can I do this myself, or do I need an agent at the airport?
A:
In most cases, as long as you’re eligible, you should be able to request standby or SDC via the AC app or website, including paying any required fees. But often it won't work, for no particular reason. If you need an agent to do it, it has to be an AC agent at the airport (someone who has access to DCS, the airport system), not someone at a call centre. The only exception, for those eligible for access, is the Concierge call centre. That also refers to the Aeroplan call centre - Aeroplan cannot help you with SDC/standby, and any airport agent who tells you that you need to talk to Aeroplan is wrong, and you need to push back


Same Day Changes Back to top

Basics Back to top

Q: When can I make the change? Does it have to be on the day of my flight?
A:
SDC should be available online when check-in opens for the flight you’re currently booked on (24 hours in advance of your first flight). You should be able to request an SDC up until check-in for your original flight closes

Q: What flights are available for me to change to?
A:
You can change to any flight on the same operational (roughly 0500-0200) date (subject to available space, which is described below); that includes flights departing more than 24 hours from the one you’re currently booked on. You can’t SDC to a flight for which check-in has closed

Q: Can you give me some examples?
A:
Sure. Click on the spoiler below to expand a few examples
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Q: What space is needed on the flight I want to change to?
A:
You need positive space in your cabin, and on the flight as a whole. Your fare class is irrelevant. If you are booked in Y, and the flight you want is full in Y but empty in J, you cannot change. If you're booked in J, and the flight you want is J5 but Y-10, you can't change. If you're booked in J, and the flight is J5 Y-4, you can change, even though Y is overbooked, because the flight is not

Q: How do I make this change?
A:
SDC is available through the online check-in function on the AC app or website (as long as it’s working properly). You can request SDC before you start check-in or after you’ve completed it. You should be offered any available itineraries. If a flight isn’t showing up as an option, it’s probably due to lack of available space as described above, or in the case of connecting itineraries, it may not be a legal connection. An agent at the airport can also handle this; this includes Concierges (and, for SEs only, the central Concierge office)

Q: I’ve read through the FAQ and am curious about the technical details
A:
See this excellent post by D582



Eligibility & Costs Back to top

Q: What do same day changes cost, and what’s eligible?
A:
Both answers depend on the market and fare type:
  • Basic: not eligible
  • Standard
    • $150 domestic/transborder; or $100 for a few selected city pairs:
      • Flights between (a) Toronto (YYZ or YTZ) and (b)(i) Montreal or (ii) Ottawa
      • Flights between (a) Toronto Pearson (YYZ) and (b)(i) JFK or (ii) LGA or (iii) Newark airports
      • Flights between any of Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver
    • $50 Sun
    • $100 international
  • Flex
    • $75 domestic/transborder
    • $50 Sun
    • $100 international
  • Comfort: $0
  • Latitude: $0
  • Premium Economy Lowest
    • $75 for domestic/transborder
    • $100 international
    • ??? Sun (not listed)
  • Premium Economy Flexible: $0
  • Business Class Lowest:
    • $0 for domestic/transborder
      • Note: the app/website want to charge $100 on Aeroplan Business Lowest bookings. The AC website does not make any distinction for Aeroplan tickets, and the fare rules should say SDC is free. You may or may not be able to get an agent to waive the fee, but should be able to get a refund after the fact
    • Sun/international: a fee may apply, but is variable depending on route/fare
  • Business Class Flexible: $0

Some fare rules also waive SDC fees. There are a lot of international Premium Economy Lowest fares that explicitly state SDC is free

Q: Do I have to pay the fee for each segment I change?
A:
No, you pay the fee each time you make a change. You could change all 3 flights on a 2-stop itinerary and pay the fee only once. However, if you make a change, then later decide you’d like to change flights again, you would have to pay another fee, regardless of how many segments you’ve changed each time



Routing Back to top

Q: What am I allowed to change?
A:
You may change the routing, but not the number of connections

Q: Can you give me some examples?
A:
Sure. Click on the spoiler below to expand a few examples
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Q: The agent I'm dealing with says I can’t change connecting points
A:
Tell them to look at "the ACpedia page for Same-Day Change, under the header of FLAT Same Day Change Fee for Multiple Segments". The policy very explicitly states that you must have same day of departure, same origin, and same final destination

Q: I booked a flight from YYZ to EWR but I want to go to LGA instead, can I do that?
A:
Yes, you can change between co-terminals at your destination

Q: What if I booked a flight EWR to YYZ, can I leave from LGA instead?
A:
No, you can’t change co-terminals at your origin

Q: Can I SDC after I’ve already taken one or more flights, e.g. if I’m flying FCO-YYZ-YYC, can I SDC the YYZ-YYC flight after arriving at YYZ?
A:
Yes, you should be able to do it yourself online, or an agent can do it


SDC & eUpgrades Back to top

Q: I have a confirmed eUpgrade on my original flight. Can I SDC straight in to J on the new flight?
A:
No, you need space in Y to SDC into. When you SDC, you will be back in Y

Q: Will my eUp request carry over to the new flight?
A:
No, once you SDC, you will need to request the eUp again. You should be able to do this online, or an agent can do it

Bookings Involving Partners Back to top

Q: I booked my flight through United, can I do SDC?
A
No, it must be ticketed by Air Canada, meaning the ticket number must start with 014

Q: I booked YYZ-FRA-LHR, with one segment on another airline. Can I change it to YYZ-YUL-LHR?
A:
No you may only change segments operated by AC



Standby Back to top

Basics Back to top

Q: What flights are eligible for standby?
A:
Essentially, Comfort, Latitude, PY Flexible, and Business Flexible always get free standby. Basic is never eligible. Standard, Flex, PY Lowest and Business Lowest are only eligible on certain routes or markets. See the Eligibility & Costs section below

Q: When can I make the change? Does it have to be on the day of my flight?
A:
You should be able to request standby online when check-in opens for the flight you’re currently booked on (24 hours in advance of your first flight). But the standby list is only processed a short time before the flight

Q: So when does the standby list get processed?
A:
The standby list is generally run 5 minutes after check-in closes (i.e. 40 minutes for domestic flights or 55 minutes for international flights)

Q: If I don’t get a seat at T-40/T-55, does that mean I’m out of luck?
A:
No. If there are people who don’t show up for the flight (e.g. misconnections), they will clear more people off the standby list (the plane usually shouldn’t leave with empty seats if there are still people on standby)

Q: I don’t like the idea of waiting that late. Can I get confirmed earlier than that?
A:
That’s what SDC is for. On rare occasions, AC may clear people off the standby list earlier than the times above, but you’re usually not going to get confirmed until after check-in has closed

Q: There’s more than one earlier flight that would work for me. Can I standby for multiple flights?
A:
You can only SBY for one flight at a time, but if you fail to clear on that one, you can request it on a subsequent flight

Q: Do I keep my seat on my original flight?
A:
As soon as you clear standby for a new flight, you lose the space on your original flight. If you don’t clear standby, your original booking remains intact

Q: What if I clear standby but don’t board the earlier flight?
A:
You need to see an agent to try to get re-booked on another flight. You’ve in a difficult position because you’ve given up your original seat then no-showed the new one, so you have no confirmed space on any flight

Q: Can I cancel a standby request?
A:
As long as it hasn’t cleared. Once it clears, as noted above, you’ve lost your original flight, and you’ll need an agent to re-book you on something else. Note that once check-in closes, you will likely need an agent to remove you from the list

Q: I’m booked in a higher cabin than economy (whether originally ticketed or on some kind of upgrade). Can I standby only for a flight in my original cabin?
A:
Nope. If you have a ticket for a higher cabin, you’ll be on standby for space in that cabin and anything lower. That means if your original flight is in J, you could end up in PY or Y

Q: Would I get any compensation for the downgrade?
A:
No, because you chose to take an earlier flight

Q: This sounds kind of different from how I remember it
A:
AC switched to a new reservation system in late 2019, which brought numerous changes. Most were negative – previously you could standby only for the cabin you were booked in, and you didn’t lose your seat on your original flight unless and until you boarded the new flight – but some were positive, e.g. online self-service options

Q: Overall, this sounds kind of crappy. Why would I want to do it?
A:
If getting to your next airport early is important, and especially if you’re already booked in Y, SBY can be worthwhile. If you’re confirmed in a higher cabin, there’s a considerable chance of being downgraded, so it may be less appealing

Q: How do I request standby?
A:
Standby is available through the online check-in function on the AC app or website (as long as it’s working properly). You can only request SBY after you’ve checked in. An agent at the airport can also handle this; this includes Concierges (and, for SEs only, the central Concierge office)


Priority Back to top

Q: What is the priority for standby?
A:
As follows (this is very similar to the priority for eUpgrades):
  1. Cabin: Based on your ticketed cabin (i.e. upgrades don’t count)
    • Note: Paid J will rank ahead of any eUp requests in the J cabin (subject to space available on the flight – if the flight is full overall but oversold in Y/PY, your standby can’t clear, so eUps will clear even though your standby doesn’t). If you have a confirmed upgrade to J, you’ll be on standby for J, but with lower priority than everyone who’s already confirmed on the flight. The same principle should apply to PY
    • For seats in Y, J and PY will rank ahead of those ticketed in Y
  2. Status: VIP > SE 2MM+ with credit card > SE 2MM+ > SE MM with credit card > SE MM > SE with credit card > SE > 75K 2MM+ with credit card, etc. If two passengers are on the PNR, the priority might be based on the highest status, per this post
  3. "Fare": Brand comes first (PF > PL; LT > CO > FL > ST), so a low Comfort fare is higher priority than Flex M. Within a brand, fare class matters. If you bought your ticket through another airline, and you don't have a brand, they infer a brand based on the fare class.
    Fare class hierarchy:
    • PY fares: O > E > A > N
    • Y fares: Y > B > M > U > H > Q > V > W > S > T > L > K > G
  4. Check-in time: As indicated by your sequence number


Eligibility & Costs Back to top

Q: What’s eligible for standby, and how much does it cost?
A:
Eligibility depends on market and route; when eligible, standby is always free
  • Basic: not eligible
  • Standard & Flex
    • Domestic/transborder, only eligible for:
      • Flights between (a) Toronto (YYZ or YTZ) and (b)(i) Montreal or (ii) Ottawa
      • Flights between (a) Toronto Pearson (YYZ) and (b)(i) JFK or (ii) LGA or (iii) Newark airports
      • Flights between any of Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver
    • Sun & International: not eligible
  • Comfort: always eligible
  • Latitude: always eligible
  • Premium Economy Lowest
    • Domestic/transborder, only eligible for:
      • Flights between (a) Toronto (YYZ or YTZ) and (b)(i) Montreal or (ii) Ottawa
      • Flights between (a) Toronto Pearson (YYZ) and (b)(i) JFK or (ii) LGA or (iii) Newark airports
      • Flights between any of Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver
    • Sun: eligible
    • International: not eligible
  • Premium Economy Flexible: always eligible
  • Business Class Lowest
    • Domestic/transborder, only eligible for:
      • Flights between (a) Toronto (YYZ or YTZ) and (b)(i) Montreal or (ii) Ottawa
      • Flights between (a) Toronto Pearson (YYZ) and (b)(i) JFK or (ii) LGA or (iii) Newark airports
      • Flights between any of Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver
    • Sun & International: eligible
  • Business Class Flexible: always eligible


Routing Back to top

Q: I booked a connecting itinerary. Can I standby for a non-stop flight?
A:
No, you can only standby for an earlier flight on the same route

Q: What if I want to standby from a non-stop to a connecting itinerary?
A:
No, same as above

Q: If I’m flying YYC-YYZ-YDF, can I standby for both an earlier YYC-YYZ and an earlier YYZ-YDF?
A:
Yes, but you can only request SBY for your next segment at any one time – you can only request for the YYZ-YDF leg once you’ve flown the YYC-YYZ leg

Q: I booked a flight from YYZ to EWR but I want to go to LGA instead, can I do that?
A:
Yes, you can change between co-terminals at your destination

Q: What if I booked a flight EWR to YYZ, can I leave from LGA instead?
A:
No, you can’t change co-terminals at your origin


Bookings Involving Partners Back to top

Q: I booked my flight through United, can I do SBY?
A:
Not through self-serve tools. It must be ticketed by Air Canada, meaning the ticket number must start with 014. There is a chance an agent can make this happen

Q: I booked YYZ-ORD, operated by United, can I stand by for an Air Canada flight?
A:
No, you can only stand by from segments operated by AC

Q: I booked YYZ-ORD, operated by Air Canada, can I stand by for a United flight?
A:
No you can only stand by to segments operated by AC

Q: What if the flight is a codeshare, does that change either of the previous two answers?
A:
No, codeshares are irrelevant
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Old Nov 2, 2021, 11:44 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
No. SDC can only touch AC-operated segments.
Thanks, I didn't know that!

I think I'll book the Lat flight pass LIS-YYZ as back up, hope it clears before Friday, and if not, I'll cancel it when I wake up Friday and use my existing ticket.
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Old Nov 2, 2021, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by AskTravis
Thanks, I didn't know that!

I think I'll book the Lat flight pass LIS-YYZ as back up, hope it clears before Friday, and if not, I'll cancel it when I wake up Friday and use my existing ticket.
Keep in mind that, if you do that, AC may auto-cancel one of the reservations. See this thread for more information on duplicate bookings.
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Old Nov 4, 2021, 2:24 pm
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I have a flight coming up, HNL-YVR-YYZ-YYT. SDC is offered at check in but the HNL-YVR and YYZ-YYT flights are the same. The only variability is the YVR-YYZ flight. In fact, there are three different YVR-YYZ flights I can pick from. The problem, I’m not able to see what any of those flights are. All I can see are the overall trip departure time, overall trip arrival time, and layover airports. I’ve tried viewing in both mobile and on a computer and same level of detail. The phone agent wasn’t able to help either because it was related to the check in process. The gate agents at the airport don’t get there until this evening and I’m worried that the seats on the flight I want may get taken by then. Any thoughts on how to know what I’m SDCing to before I click confirm? If I click confirm, will it give me an overview before “really” committing to the SDC? Can I SDC multiple times if I give it a shot and get it wrong?

If I select one of the flights in the screenshot, the only options are confirm or cancel.

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Old Nov 4, 2021, 2:31 pm
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If you want to send me your booking reference and last name, "I" can tell you what they are, but I don't think there's a way for you to see.

But no, this is one area they're seriously lacking.

Maybe on a larger screen, it would show more info? But I seem to recall running into this myself.
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Old Nov 6, 2021, 10:38 pm
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I’m booked YOW-YYZ-DEN-DFW today because YYZ-DFW was sold out at time of booking. The DEN-DFW segment is an AC codeshare operated by United. The YYZ-DFW option is now Y5 but the concierge is telling me they can’t do a same day change because the original itinerary contains a flight that’s not operated by AC. They are willing to reticket and charge the fare difference (which is very large).

Is the SDC prohibition correct in this case?

Thanks
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Old Nov 6, 2021, 11:02 pm
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Yes that is correct
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Old Nov 7, 2021, 3:29 am
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The flexibility on SDC even for non flight pass tickets seems to be gone. I booked YYZ-YVR-YYJ and YYJ-YVR—YYZ in econo. Going out I was able to get the concierge to move me to YYZ-YYC-YYJ the day before at the checkin window, at first I had to convince him that I didn’t have to wait until midnight then he has to speak to someone and he was able to force it through. However, i tried the same YYC connection for my return flight and the concierge refused to do anything other than look at other YYJ-YVR-YYZ options. She basically said that there were often larger fare differences on other routings so they were not able to change routings.

I mentioned that they changed it on the way out, but she was unwilling to speak to anyone and was only willing to offer the options the system presented to her which were the same i saw in OLCI. Not sure if I should have tried again with someone else but feels like they are making SDC pretty useless for all bookings.
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Old Nov 7, 2021, 5:51 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Yes that is correct
Update: that’s what the concierge desk told me, but at the airport the customer service agent made the change, after reviewing the rules and interpreting that she wasn’t allowed to move me ONTO a non-AC-operated flight, but could move me OFF one onto a shorter all-AC routing.

She may have interpreted the rules incorrectly (I don’t know) but the system did let her do it. I guess it’s always worth asking.
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Old Nov 7, 2021, 11:37 am
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The system will let you reticket AC basic economy onto EK F.

That doesn't mean it's within policy.

The only thing that's going to happen if people keep asking for (and succeeding at) doing out of policy changes is that they'll lock it down even more so that it becomes impossible to do something like a routing change. (Oh wait it seems we may be at that point)
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Old Nov 9, 2021, 9:44 pm
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Same Day Change for Discount Biz Class... included?

I have read through the forums here and several pages online that discuss Air Canada's same day change policy and cannot for the life of me figure this one out.

If I have booked a flight earlier in the day in Business using Aeroplan points (lowest price Business) and want to change my ticket to a flight later that day, is such a change included at no charge? I've never done a same day change on Air Canada and am unsure if the difference in business award type has any impact. The fare rules available during booking don't really clear anything up as they don't speak to same day changes.

The part of the fare rules which I can see:
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On other websites, I've read explanations saying, "Air Canada’s Premium Economy, Comfort Class, and Business Class fare includes a free same-day flight change. In other words, passengers holding a refundable fare are not required to pay Air Canada same-day change fee." But, this is a Business class ticket that is not fully refundable. During booking, the website seems to indicate that lowest level award business includes changes for a fee but doesn't say anything with respect to the same day changes policy.

On Air Canada's website, one grid showing features of each fare class lumps all business into one bucket and says "included" when it comes to same day changes. https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...-canada.html#/

So, appealing to the experts here with all the experience, has anyone had any problems with a low level business award doing a same day confirmed change? Also, if not, and I am hoping not, Air Canada also says "Same-day confirmed changes can be completed at time of check-in."... is this true or does it have to actually be the same day (after midnight) to process online the same day change?

Thank you to all for the help!
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Old Nov 9, 2021, 10:16 pm
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I've flow twice this year on a (domestic) Business (P or Z) fare, and done a SDC without charge at check-in. I used to have to call the concierge each time to do this (past midnight), it's pretty painless now on the mobile app, and I've done this as soon as T-24.

Not sure when this changed, but it also used to be a $75 fee on Business lowest, and only complementary on the refundable fares (similar to PY right now).
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Old Nov 14, 2021, 10:43 am
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Well, I gave the same-day change a shot on a low level business award (I) YUL->YYZ and I was forced to pay $115 for the same-day change even though on AirCanada.com, it says all business class tickets get free same day changes. All very confusing.
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Old Nov 14, 2021, 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Adrade
Well, I gave the same-day change a shot on a low level business award (I) YUL->YYZ and I was forced to pay $115 for the same-day change even though on AirCanada.com, it says all business class tickets get free same day changes. All very confusing.
Same experience on YYZ-YUL on an I aeroplan ticket... ended up doing standby.
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Old Nov 19, 2021, 6:29 pm
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SDC, same city, different airport

75K ticket booked in flex.
YOW-YYZ-YOW

Could I do a SDC to YOW-YTZ to YOW-YYZ.
might need the later departure out YYZ .

It talks about Extra flexibility on Toronto-Ottawa- Montreal flights, just curious

Thanks

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Old Nov 19, 2021, 6:40 pm
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Originally Posted by bcard519
75K ticket booked in flex.
YOW-YYZ-YOW

Could I do a SDC to YOW-YTZ, YYZ-YOW.
might need the later departure out YYZ .

It talks about Extra flexibility on Toronto-Ottawa- Montreal flights, just curious
Historically, it was possible to SDC between co-terminals. I've not done YTZ for YOW, but switched EWR to LGA or vice versa on multiple occasions, as one example.

All my experiences were before Amadeus though.
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