Mar 14, 2017, 10:43 pm
Last edit by: jayman
flyquiet has graciously commenced with a compilation of recent data points with regard to the most recent targeted status buy up offer.
Your contributions to this wiki are greatly appreciated!
Please post your data point offer below, as per the headings, and the comma delimiter.
If someone would like to improve the formatting style, be my guest.
* Note that the first version of this wiki is based on flyquiet's post, #250.
* if you are not eligible to contribute to the wiki, just say so you in your post and we will do it for you.
- yyznomad
Your contributions to this wiki are greatly appreciated!
Please post your data point offer below, as per the headings, and the comma delimiter.
If someone would like to improve the formatting style, be my guest.
* Note that the first version of this wiki is based on flyquiet's post, #250.
* if you are not eligible to contribute to the wiki, just say so you in your post and we will do it for you.
- yyznomad
Code:
From AQM AQS AQD Offer Post#
Code:
75k105% uns 88% 2499 N/A
Code:
75K 70% 79% 125% no 238 75K 76% uns 55% no 229 75K 105% uns 53% no 210 75K 116% uns 75% no 252 75K 84% uns 47% no 254 75K (unclear if given 50K or 75K, 64%, uns, 126%, no, 255 75K uns 89% 85% 1599 129/162 75K 81% 48% 92% 1299 151/160 75k 83% uns 81% no 295 50K 62% 88% 100% no 319 50K 73% 41% 116% no 289 50K 96% 74% 106% 899 266 50K 80% uns 178% no 232 50K uns uns uns 899 193 35K 93% 46% 160% 899 125 35K 88% 46% 133% 899 230 35K 99% uns "enough", 799, 253 35K 72% 31% 100% no --- 35K 70% uns 100% no 181 35K 61% 88% 264% 899 309 25K 91% uns 150% 599 287 25K uns 94% uns 599 123 25K 71% 74% 200% no 195 AC*A uns uns uns 499 127 AC*A 79% 16% 104% 499 257 AC*A 92% uns 87% 144 AC*A 41% 8% 191% 399 258
AC to allow status buy-up
Mar 10, 2017, 5:00 pm
#181
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
Posts: 5,612
I've had no offers.
I was only just over the AQM but my AQD was over $6k which I believe was the E50 requirement.
Interesting how it only only up to E50 and is now being expanded. Meanwhile AC sells planes. Short on cash? The debt suddenly becoming an issue?
$1600 for SE seems like an excellent deal that will lose AC money in many cases. Of course, if one is E75 maybe they wouldn't pay the co pay so that's not really losing AC money.
Do wonder how targeted it is. I struggle to believe AC IT is capable of identifying people unlikely to cost them more than $1600 (or even $1300) in additional benefits.
$1300 USD vs $1600 CAD? Just wondering, it's not far off that depending upon which way you convert it.
I was only just over the AQM but my AQD was over $6k which I believe was the E50 requirement.
Interesting how it only only up to E50 and is now being expanded. Meanwhile AC sells planes. Short on cash? The debt suddenly becoming an issue?
$1600 for SE seems like an excellent deal that will lose AC money in many cases. Of course, if one is E75 maybe they wouldn't pay the co pay so that's not really losing AC money.
Do wonder how targeted it is. I struggle to believe AC IT is capable of identifying people unlikely to cost them more than $1600 (or even $1300) in additional benefits.
$1300 USD vs $1600 CAD? Just wondering, it's not far off that depending upon which way you convert it.
Mar 10, 2017, 5:34 pm
#182
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
Um, AC is ahead if Altitude members who received the offer, BUY the offer
AC is not necessarily ahead if those same members who bought-up cost more than they did due to AC having to provide the SE benefits and privileges which AC obviously believes costs money. Otherwise, AC would have never set SE at $20K, you know, because either we "cost" more or because AC thinks we need to "spend more" for the privilege of being SE.
I.M.H.O.
AC is not necessarily ahead if those same members who bought-up cost more than they did due to AC having to provide the SE benefits and privileges which AC obviously believes costs money. Otherwise, AC would have never set SE at $20K, you know, because either we "cost" more or because AC thinks we need to "spend more" for the privilege of being SE.
I.M.H.O.
Mar 10, 2017, 6:10 pm
#183
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YYZ
Programs: Hilton Gold Mariott Gold Aeroplan E25K SAS Gold NEXUS
Posts: 1,308
I don't struggle with the same belief; whenever revenue can be increased they seem to work it out in AC IT. Other non-revenue impacting issues, well, they fly basic economy.
Mar 10, 2017, 6:35 pm
#184
Join Date: May 2005
Location: YOW
Programs: AC-SE100K MM, BA-S HH-D, MB-G LT Sil, IHG-Plt, Nexus, Global Entry
Posts: 3,806
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Mar 10, 2017, 6:38 pm
#185
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: AC75 MM
Posts: 959
I am so so surpirsed they'd do this all the way up to SE.
Just don't get why they'd cheapen the product so much. Really bizarre, only explanation I can think is that the emails were sent out 3 weeks early, and were meant to arrive April 1st.
Will be interesting to see where the dust settles.
Just don't get why they'd cheapen the product so much. Really bizarre, only explanation I can think is that the emails were sent out 3 weeks early, and were meant to arrive April 1st.
Will be interesting to see where the dust settles.
Mar 10, 2017, 6:42 pm
#186
Join Date: Jan 2014
Programs: AC 35K, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 232
Curious if there'd be anything in the Star Alliance agreement between members relating to buying status (*G) vs earning it via BIS?
Mar 10, 2017, 6:49 pm
#187
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
2015 - Avianca
"Star Alliance Gold Status for $2200, No Flying Required"
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....ying-required/
2015 - United and Air India - Spend on Co-branded credit cards
"Is it possible to buy a Star Alliance Gold Status without actually earning it through miles?"
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible...-through-miles
And from 2013 in this FT Thread
Mar 10, 2017, 7:12 pm
#188
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 6,222
Mar 10, 2017, 7:15 pm
#189
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 6,222
J has that too. It's the most fun when you hang back, and while zone 5 is being boarded saunter to zone 1 with nothing but a very very small bag, just to be able to answer "Zone 1?" with ... "Jay."
AQD is mostly comprised of what? Actual costs of delivering conveyance? What are margins like at AC? Is it really fuel driven and thus this pay-for-play might be the ONLY way an airline can make money reliably?
Might have to sex it up more... should sunglasses on livery, at night even... good Canadian music...
AQD is mostly comprised of what? Actual costs of delivering conveyance? What are margins like at AC? Is it really fuel driven and thus this pay-for-play might be the ONLY way an airline can make money reliably?
Might have to sex it up more... should sunglasses on livery, at night even... good Canadian music...
(There! Try to get that out of your head for the whole weekend.)
Mar 10, 2017, 7:16 pm
#190
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
Mar 10, 2017, 8:24 pm
#191
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
Posts: 5,612
Wait what? Only P25k+ can early qualify? A non-status person won't get E35k this year even if they get the miles before October?
Mar 10, 2017, 8:50 pm
#192
Formerly known as jsfrSuperElite
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hong Kong, Montreal
Programs: Air Canada SE100K-1MM, Hilton Honors Lifetime Diamond
Posts: 590
I am so so surpirsed they'd do this all the way up to SE.
Just don't get why they'd cheapen the product so much. Really bizarre, only explanation I can think is that the emails were sent out 3 weeks early, and were meant to arrive April 1st.
Will be interesting to see where the dust settles.
Just don't get why they'd cheapen the product so much. Really bizarre, only explanation I can think is that the emails were sent out 3 weeks early, and were meant to arrive April 1st.
Will be interesting to see where the dust settles.
Mar 10, 2017, 9:34 pm
#193
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: YYG
Programs: Aeroplan 50K, Club Accor Gold
Posts: 441
$899 for 50K to 75K.
Mar 10, 2017, 9:51 pm
#194
Join Date: May 2001
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SEMM
Posts: 2,072
I suppose the cost could also be justified partially with the eUpgrades received reaching SE or E75.
Mar 10, 2017, 9:58 pm
#195
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: AC*Tangerine
Posts: 417
Last year my flying declined and I had 25k AQM, 26 AQS and 7980 AQD. (Yes I know I was apparently flying very expensive flights.) Despite having grossly overspent, I've had zero offers.
Perhaps in their analysis I will continue to overspend and require no incentives. But that analysis would be wrong. So far in 2017 I have flown or booked 8 segments on 5 airlines, based on schedule and price, only one of which was on AC.
Perhaps in their analysis I will continue to overspend and require no incentives. But that analysis would be wrong. So far in 2017 I have flown or booked 8 segments on 5 airlines, based on schedule and price, only one of which was on AC.