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Old Apr 2, 2017, 9:28 pm
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Q: When should I use eUpgrades, and when should I use AC Bid?
A: For starters, you can use both of them on a single booking. If one upgrade is accepted, the other is cancelled at no cost to you. One thing to consider is that eUpgrade priority is highly influenced by your Aeroplan Elite status and the fare class of the original ticket, but AC Bid is influenced by your bid as compared to other people. If you don't have a high Aeroplan Elite status, AC Bid may be the better choice for you.

Q: If I use a Bid Upgrade do I get additional SQM / SQD now for my flights?
A: No.

Q: If I use a Bid Upgrade on an International Flight leaving YYZ/YVR do I get access to the Signature Lounge?
A: No.

Q: When will I find out if my bid was successful?
A: You will be sent an email within 36 to 48 hours prior to your departure.

Q: If I am successfully upgraded, which baggage limit applies?
A: The baggage rules of the upgraded ticket apply. Note that this is different than eUpgrades, where the original tickets baggage rules still apply.

Q: When do I pay for a bid?
A: Your credit card is only charged when the bid is accepted, which will happen no earlier than 48 hours before departure. Note that if your card is declined, even temporarily for a fraud check, you will lose the bid and will not get another opportunity.

Q: Can I cancel an AC Bid?
A: Yes, but only until 48 hours before departure.

Q: If I cancel the booking after successfully bidding for an upgrade, or if I miss the flight, will I get a refund?
A: No.

Q: If Air Canada rebooks me on another flight, what happens to my AC Bid upgrade?
A: You keep it and Air Canada will put you in the upgraded cabin on the new flight. If the new flight does not have Premium Economy, or if there are not enough Business class seats, then your AC Bid will be refunded.

Q: I have a flight going from XXX to YYY on DD-MM-YY and the minimum bid is $ZZZ - what are my chances / what should I bid?
A: No one here really knows how Plusgrade as implemented by AC really 'decides' which bids to accept.
There are so many potential variables that it's best just to bid what you feel the upgrade is worth to you.

Q: I was successful in a Bid Upgrade to the PY cabin. Can I now use my e upgrades to attempt to upgrade to J?

A: No. Only 1 upgrade is allowed. The same applies to a last minute upgrade to PY.


AC Bid Upgrade - FAQs

If your upgrade request is accepted, the fare conditions for the original ticket you purchased shall remain in effect and will be applicable with respect to cancellation policies, change fees, conditions for minimum and maximum stay, and rules relating to the accrual of frequent flyer miles. All other conditions will be per the upgraded fare class.

On the AC website:

"AC Bid Upgrade - Your opportunity to travel in a higher cabin class"

https://upgrade.plusgrade.com/offer/AirCanada




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Old Dec 23, 2016, 6:57 am
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Originally Posted by 24left
Oh please take a screen shot and post it here.
Happily!



Code:
 1   AC 848  J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 R4    /YYZ 1 LHR 2  840P    830A+1E0/77W       6:50
11   AC 857  J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 R9    /LHR 2 YYZ 1 1200N    255P  E0/77W       7:55
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Old Dec 23, 2016, 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by bawm
Happily!



Code:
 1   AC 848  J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 R4    /YYZ 1 LHR 2  840P    830A+1E0/77W       6:50
11   AC 857  J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 R9    /LHR 2 YYZ 1 1200N    255P  E0/77W       7:55
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Beautiful.

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Old Dec 23, 2016, 7:10 am
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Originally Posted by bawm
I wonder what makes your flight "eligible" - I just had a look for a colleague flying YYZ-LHR-YYZ in mid January (T outbound, K return). Outbound is J9 P9 R4, return is J9 P9 R9 and it says "We are sorry, we have no space available".

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Should say: "We are sorry, we have no space available (for you)".

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Old Dec 23, 2016, 12:02 pm
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Originally Posted by bawm
Happily!



Code:
 1   AC 848  J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 R4    /YYZ 1 LHR 2  840P    830A+1E0/77W       6:50
11   AC 857  J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 R9    /LHR 2 YYZ 1 1200N    255P  E0/77W       7:55
bawm
Also received the same "We are sorry, we have no space available" message for a YYZ-HND flight early January. According to ExpertFlyert, the flight is: J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 R0 O1 E0 N0 Y5 B5 M4 U3 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0

J seems wide open while PY and Y seem pretty full. Go figure.

Maybe you can only check availability for flights 1 week out?
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Old Dec 23, 2016, 12:05 pm
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I think we are part of a price discovery exercise...
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Old Dec 23, 2016, 12:06 pm
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AC IT being a little crazy? I wonder if the blocks become available to different services at differing intervals. Would be nice to have an official "flight timeline" for when all the different upgrades from bids, eUp and AP redemptions all occurred.
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Old Dec 23, 2016, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
First of all, never trust the seat map. An empty seat means nothing...
However a full or almost full seat map does. In this case there were 5 empty seats (all middles) in the very back and about 12 empty ones in the area reserved for Altitude members (until T-24 that is). J was wide open with most seats unreserved (it was showing J9 and even R9 on EF)

YHZ-LHR only operates 4 or 5 times a week and just before Christmas it seemed likely there were a lot of Tango pax on this route who were not prepared to pay for advance seat selection.

As SEMM I figured I would be at the top of the list for an opUp under these circumstances.

The gamble paid off
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Old Dec 23, 2016, 1:56 pm
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My next upgrade will be the 8AM tuesday flight on Jan 3rd

Being 40J, it should be a easy kill and I would probably be peeved if I am wait listed then receives the bidding email.
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Old Dec 23, 2016, 3:19 pm
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Why does Air Canada need to outsource their upgrading bidding system to Plusgrade?

http://www.plusgrade.com/
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Old Dec 23, 2016, 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by cooleddie
Why does Air Canada need to outsource their upgrading bidding system to Plusgrade?

http://www.plusgrade.com/
Not having to re-invent the wheel? Seriously, would you trust AC IT to implement it instead? Plusgrade has proven itself with other airlines.
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Old Dec 23, 2016, 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by cooleddie
Why does Air Canada need to outsource their upgrading bidding system to Plusgrade?

http://www.plusgrade.com/
Because otherwise it would like dumpster on fireeeee
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Old Dec 23, 2016, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by cooleddie
Why does Air Canada need to outsource their upgrading bidding system to Plusgrade?

http://www.plusgrade.com/

AC did not outsource. The program belongs to Plusgrade and they signed up the airline customers

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Old Dec 23, 2016, 4:28 pm
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I think you're arguing over semantics here.
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Old Dec 23, 2016, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I think you're arguing over semantics here.
Isn't that what we do here on AC FT?
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Old Dec 24, 2016, 6:57 am
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I had an Aeroplan reward booking for YHZ-YYZ. Received an offer to bid. Range was $150-400; I bid $160. Accepted. Flight was J9 R9 before my bid was accepted; J9 R8 after.

At the gate on the day of, the GA scanned my BP and then said, "Hmm. I've never seen this upgrade code before." I mentioned the bidding and she said, "Ohhh. Right."

At the time I bid on the outbound flight I also bid $160 on the return YYZ-YHZ. The range was the same, $150-400. However, I looked at the offer again on the bidding site last night and the range had increased to $245-700. This morning it's $250-700. Flight is J4 R1.

I didn't receive a notification that my bid is now below the current minimum, which would seem like an obvious way to encourage people to revisit the site and up their bids if, like me, they weren't aware that the bidding range changes over time. I'm leaving it at $160 to see what happens.
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