Air Canada & rouge New Routes - Master Thread
Mar 19, 2021, 1:44 pm
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Now, if AC started YYT-HNL, that would clock in at 5,815 miles
Mar 24, 2021, 10:25 pm
#422
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YUL-YLW starting July 2.
https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/328225/Air-Canada-offering-direct-flights-from-Kelowna-to-Montreal-this-summer
Air Canada is opening up the Okanagan to people in Quebec.
Beginning July 2, Air Canada will offer direct, non-stop service from Kelowna International Airport to Montreal, five days a week, Friday through Tuesday.
Return non-stop flights from Montreal depart Wednesday through Sunday.
Air Canada will utilize the recently acquired Airbus 220-300, a plane designed in Canada, on the route.
19:05
Montréal YUL
AC 365
Wi-Fi
21:35
Kelowna YLW
10:00
Kelowna YLW
AC 364
Wi-Fi
17:30
Montréal YUL
https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/328225/Air-Canada-offering-direct-flights-from-Kelowna-to-Montreal-this-summer
Air Canada is opening up the Okanagan to people in Quebec.
Beginning July 2, Air Canada will offer direct, non-stop service from Kelowna International Airport to Montreal, five days a week, Friday through Tuesday.
Return non-stop flights from Montreal depart Wednesday through Sunday.
Air Canada will utilize the recently acquired Airbus 220-300, a plane designed in Canada, on the route.
19:05
Montréal YUL
AC 365
Wi-Fi
21:35
Kelowna YLW
10:00
Kelowna YLW
AC 364
Wi-Fi
17:30
Montréal YUL
Apr 12, 2021, 8:42 am
#423
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This weekend LH loaded YYC-FRA 5x weekly from March 27, 2022. Curious if this will be on top of AC's daily service or if they're replacing AC metal on the route? 12x weekly seems rather excessive unless they're expecting a surge in demand next summer?
Apr 12, 2021, 9:53 am
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We've seen pretty solid evidence so far that some airlines are more (or less) willing than others to load a bunch of flights, see what the demand is, then cancel any flight that doesnt sell >X% by T-minus-6-weeks.
Apr 12, 2021, 10:22 am
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About 10 years ago, AC and LH did both operate YYC-FRA, so there was a time when it made sense to have both on the route.
For what it's worth, AC still seems to be selling YYC-FRA as far out as the schedule goes.
Apr 12, 2021, 4:11 pm
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LH does not seem to have loaded the promised 5x weekly YOW-FRA flight, so maybe it was moved to YYC? Hopefully the AC YOW-LHR flight sticks around.
Apr 13, 2021, 4:55 am
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Apr 13, 2021, 5:55 am
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All likely based on demand. YOW-LHR will come back, but maybe not until next summer. There is a lot of capacity that needs to restored from the east, to all parts of Europe, that AC once flew. There is much less nonstop capacity from the west, so it make some sense that capacity would return first (both AC and LH). March 2022 is also a long ways out...
Apr 13, 2021, 8:38 am
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I sure hope that's in addition to the AC flight. I shudder at the idea of losing that flight.
About 10 years ago, AC and LH did both operate YYC-FRA, so there was a time when it made sense to have both on the route.
For what it's worth, AC still seems to be selling YYC-FRA as far out as the schedule goes.
About 10 years ago, AC and LH did both operate YYC-FRA, so there was a time when it made sense to have both on the route.
For what it's worth, AC still seems to be selling YYC-FRA as far out as the schedule goes.
Maybe they think there's market share with BA dropping out?
The flight numbers are the same from the planned YOW-FRA service. LH472/473.
May 12, 2021, 7:39 am
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https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2021...-and-Vancouver
More Hawaii coming next winter. AC adding YYZ-OGG, YUL-HNL and YYC-HNL from December onwards.
Got a kick out of them only listing the MAX as a "Boeing 737" in the release but fully writing out "Boeing 787 Dreamliner".
More Hawaii coming next winter. AC adding YYZ-OGG, YUL-HNL and YYC-HNL from December onwards.
Got a kick out of them only listing the MAX as a "Boeing 737" in the release but fully writing out "Boeing 787 Dreamliner".
May 12, 2021, 7:50 am
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https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2021...-and-Vancouver
More Hawaii coming next winter. AC adding YYZ-OGG, YUL-HNL and YYC-HNL from December onwards.
Got a kick out of them only listing the MAX as a "Boeing 737" in the release but fully writing out "Boeing 787 Dreamliner".
More Hawaii coming next winter. AC adding YYZ-OGG, YUL-HNL and YYC-HNL from December onwards.
Got a kick out of them only listing the MAX as a "Boeing 737" in the release but fully writing out "Boeing 787 Dreamliner".
And every Hawaii-western Canada flight is overnight. Again, blech. Will take WS on the 789 or connect in the US for a daytime route.
May 12, 2021, 8:01 am
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Interesting. So YYC gets daily Hawaii service, but 3 days it's to HNL. And all on 7M8s. Blech. Last year at one point they had 333s on YYC-OGG, that was nice.
And every Hawaii-western Canada flight is overnight. Again, blech. Will take WS on the 789 or connect in the US for a daytime route.
And every Hawaii-western Canada flight is overnight. Again, blech. Will take WS on the 789 or connect in the US for a daytime route.
FWIW I've never minded the overnights on return.
Regardless I hope the planes are full this Winter.
May 12, 2021, 8:17 am
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Looks like nonstop HNL-YYZ has been pulled for xmas time.
Replaced with HNL-YYC-YYZ, both on 737max - yeah thats equivalent to a nonstop 787....
Replaced with HNL-YYC-YYZ, both on 737max - yeah thats equivalent to a nonstop 787....
May 12, 2021, 8:22 am
#434
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A press release from this morning says AC intends to fly YYZ-HNL 3x weekly on Mon, Fri, Sun on a 787 from December 17.
May 12, 2021, 8:40 am
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Tough arrival time for AC530 YYZ-OGG as car rental facilities are normally closing by 23:00. Arrival time also equates to 04:15 EST making it a long day to stay awake and adjust to Hawai'i time.
AC531 OGG-YYZ is fantastic: get onboard sleep a standard Hawai'i night for 6 hours, then wake up around noon EST and good to go for the remainder of the daily.
AC531 OGG-YYZ is fantastic: get onboard sleep a standard Hawai'i night for 6 hours, then wake up around noon EST and good to go for the remainder of the daily.