Ridiculous hold times with AC
#46
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: YUL
Programs: Skymiles Silver Medallion
Posts: 955
Called AC call centre and sat through "we are currently experiencing higher than average call volume due to severe weather in some parts of Canada and the United States" followed by a long message about the online rebooking tool and a promise of a 20-25 minute wait time.
Hung up and called Porter. Long menu options spiel, but after that I got through to an agent within about 2 minutes.
Yeah, no contest.
#47
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: YVR
Programs: Ice Cream Club, AC SE MM, Bonvoy Life Plat
Posts: 2,803
Perhaps the OP was on a paid J fare, but not SE? I will note that as a AC*NO guy (meaning currently not able to credit miles to Altitude, holding no status) when I call concerning a J booking it goes to the same 50+minute queue as a Tango fare I suspect. I'm pretty certain other airlines, upon identifying the upcoming fare of the caller, reprioritize the caller into the appropriate queue.
I think someone who flies J constantly and is too lazy to even bother putting a silly AC* # on the ticket is a customer that AC wants to keep? Or is this bird so rare that AC just feels it's not worth chasing...
I think someone who flies J constantly and is too lazy to even bother putting a silly AC* # on the ticket is a customer that AC wants to keep? Or is this bird so rare that AC just feels it's not worth chasing...
#48
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: YVR
Programs: UA Premier Platinum
Posts: 3,759
My friend just had his Porter flight tomorrow morning from MDW cancelled and guess what - their call centre isn't 24/7. Their tariff entitles him to rebooking on another carrier but the flight he wants to get on from ORD will be past check in cutoff by the time they open up again in morning. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
#49
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: AC MM E50 , Former SPG, now Marriott LT Plat
Posts: 6,292
I received an itinerary change email. No matter how much I stare at it, I cannot
see any difference between the original itinerary and the revised one. So I tried
to call the number provided in the email. Since I am now in China, it was a Skype call.
I was greeted by a message that said the current wait time is between 30-35 minutes.
I hung up.
When was it that the Bens promised this would be fixed??????
see any difference between the original itinerary and the revised one. So I tried
to call the number provided in the email. Since I am now in China, it was a Skype call.
I was greeted by a message that said the current wait time is between 30-35 minutes.
I hung up.
When was it that the Bens promised this would be fixed??????
#50
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
I received an itinerary change email. No matter how much I stare at it, I cannot
see any difference between the original itinerary and the revised one. So I tried
to call the number provided in the email. Since I am now in China, it was a Skype call.
I was greeted by a message that said the current wait time is between 30-35 minutes.
I hung up.
When was it that the Bens promised this would be fixed??????
see any difference between the original itinerary and the revised one. So I tried
to call the number provided in the email. Since I am now in China, it was a Skype call.
I was greeted by a message that said the current wait time is between 30-35 minutes.
I hung up.
When was it that the Bens promised this would be fixed??????
Let's see.....October 14 and 15, 2014
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23675929-post4.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23683061-post61.html
.
#51
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,850
Booked a ticket on United.com this week, with a mix of UA and AC metal.
Called UA to get the PNR for the AC flights; as a member with no UA status, I was connected, my problem solved and off the phone in 90 seconds flat.
Called AC to select seats for AC flights; as a 35K member, heard a recording projecting hold times of 30-40 minutes. Gave up.
So, AC's strategy is working!
Called UA to get the PNR for the AC flights; as a member with no UA status, I was connected, my problem solved and off the phone in 90 seconds flat.
Called AC to select seats for AC flights; as a 35K member, heard a recording projecting hold times of 30-40 minutes. Gave up.
So, AC's strategy is working!
#52
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: Only J via Peasant Points, 777HDPeasant or The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance and Narcissism.
Posts: 6,005
Booked a ticket on United.com this week, with a mix of UA and AC metal.
Called UA to get the PNR for the AC flights; as a member with no UA status, I was connected, my problem solved and off the phone in 90 seconds flat.
Called AC to select seats for AC flights; as a 35K member, heard a recording projecting hold times of 30-40 minutes. Gave up.
So, AC's strategy is working!
Called UA to get the PNR for the AC flights; as a member with no UA status, I was connected, my problem solved and off the phone in 90 seconds flat.
Called AC to select seats for AC flights; as a 35K member, heard a recording projecting hold times of 30-40 minutes. Gave up.
So, AC's strategy is working!
#54
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: Only J via Peasant Points, 777HDPeasant or The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance and Narcissism.
Posts: 6,005
My expectations of AC is as tiny as their 17 inch Y seat.
Other companies like BMO and Footlocker should be happy that companies like AC have lowered the expection so much that even trash level service is now acceptable.
Imagine how surprised and happy I am when Footlocker picks up my phone as soon as I select English option with zero waiting times and how flexible/helpful their agents are when UPS delivered to a different address.They are not like AC who pretty much tells Y pax to pound sand when things go south.
Thankfully I don't really fly that much and can use E75K line to book tickets for said family member and usually that line has a 5 minutes wait but agents are super uninformed... at times.
#55
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,667
Imagine if you could do most reasonable things online.
I'd never have to call in.
For example, the majority (well over 50%) of my calls to the concierge line are for same day changes.
Reservations is to handle schedule changes, select seats, get partner booking references, etc.
As a result, by improving the website, they could reduce hold times.
I'd never have to call in.
For example, the majority (well over 50%) of my calls to the concierge line are for same day changes.
Reservations is to handle schedule changes, select seats, get partner booking references, etc.
As a result, by improving the website, they could reduce hold times.
#56
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Spatially speaking or metaphysically speaking?
Programs: Aeropain: Zirconia Status; Altitude: Marianas Trench Status; UA MP: 1 Kick to the curb status
Posts: 623
Let's see.....October 14 and 15, 2014
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23675929-post4.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23683061-post61.html
.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23675929-post4.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23683061-post61.html
.
#57
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: Only J via Peasant Points, 777HDPeasant or The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance and Narcissism.
Posts: 6,005
Imagine if you could do most reasonable things online.
I'd never have to call in.
For example, the majority (well over 50%) of my calls to the concierge line are for same day changes.
Reservations is to handle schedule changes, select seats, get partner booking references, etc.
As a result, by improving the website, they could reduce hold times.
I'd never have to call in.
For example, the majority (well over 50%) of my calls to the concierge line are for same day changes.
Reservations is to handle schedule changes, select seats, get partner booking references, etc.
As a result, by improving the website, they could reduce hold times.
#58
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: Only J via Peasant Points, 777HDPeasant or The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance and Narcissism.
Posts: 6,005
AC execs when talking about:
Their new website
Their OLCI
Their ground crew service level
Their call center
Their IRROPs procedure
Their agent knowledge base
Their Company Consistency
Their AQD introduction
Their new website
Their OLCI
Their ground crew service level
Their call center
Their IRROPs procedure
Their agent knowledge base
Their Company Consistency
Their AQD introduction
#59
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Spatially speaking or metaphysically speaking?
Programs: Aeropain: Zirconia Status; Altitude: Marianas Trench Status; UA MP: 1 Kick to the curb status
Posts: 623
AC execs when talking about their website, their check-in system, their ground crew service level, their call center, their IRROPs procedure
60% of the time, it works every time.... - YouTube
60% of the time, it works every time.... - YouTube
Pretty much this too (except no one appears to notice/care/do anything about it/ till someone says "oops, maybe we should do something":
#60
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,174
It's been 2 years since the post from Ben about AC's effort to reduce call center wait times, and IME, the average wait time has actually gone up since then, for both the elite line and the regular line.
Some of the foreign AC ticketing offices don't even pick up their phones...ever. (e.g. the AC office @ICN)
I sometimes have to call UA, AA, DL, and other airlines, and their wait times are not even a fraction of AC's.
And I don't even have elite status with most of them.
Air Canada as a whole is a total disaster when it comes to call center operations.
Some of the foreign AC ticketing offices don't even pick up their phones...ever. (e.g. the AC office @ICN)
I sometimes have to call UA, AA, DL, and other airlines, and their wait times are not even a fraction of AC's.
And I don't even have elite status with most of them.
Air Canada as a whole is a total disaster when it comes to call center operations.