Does AC Accept Matrix Generated Prices?
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Does AC Accept Matrix Generated Prices?
I have been helping a friend identify flights (100% AC metal) and prices using the Matrix software. The only problem is that AC has not accepted the flights and prices being quoted to them. Google indicates that AC should accept the Matrix software results as AC uses the same software? Are we doing something wrong or is this an ongoing issue?
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I have been helping a friend identify flights (100% AC metal) and prices using the Matrix software. The only problem is that AC has not accepted the flights and prices being quoted to them. Google indicates that AC should accept the Matrix software results as AC uses the same software? Are we doing something wrong or is this an ongoing issue?
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Does the itinerary include connections? ITA Matrix often looks for inventory on a segment by segment basis, but AC now manages inventory on an origin-destination basis. So if you had a K fare going A-B-C, there may be K on A-B and K from B-C but when those flights are considered together, K is not available.
Based on what you are saying, Matrix isn't useful for flights out of Halifax as they almost always include a connection.
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We have done both. Based on FT discussion, I assume that the AC online isn't always complete or correct. Therefore, we called in and talked with agents. The agents couldn't find fares that matched the Matrix output.
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Oddly enough I went to Expedia and found the flights that worked at the best price and my friends have now booked.
So the practical issue is resolved but I still wonder about the usefulness of either Flights or Matrix if the output is not bookable. I am still interested in FT's input on this as I thought that they were fairly reliable tools.
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These tools like res. agents while reliable are not infallible.
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Google flights and Matrix were providing essentially the same information. And that output was not bookable through AC.
Oddly enough I went to Expedia and found the flights that worked at the best price and my friends have now booked.
So the practical issue is resolved but I still wonder about the usefulness of either Flights or Matrix if the output is not bookable. I am still interested in FT's input on this as I thought that they were fairly reliable tools.
Oddly enough I went to Expedia and found the flights that worked at the best price and my friends have now booked.
So the practical issue is resolved but I still wonder about the usefulness of either Flights or Matrix if the output is not bookable. I am still interested in FT's input on this as I thought that they were fairly reliable tools.
YHZ-YUL-YOW-YYZ-YXE
As 1 one-way YHZ to YXE:
https://www.google.ca/flights/#searc...XE0AC1119;eo=e
As YHZ to YOW + YOW to YXE:
https://www.google.ca/flights/#searc...XE0AC1119;eo=e
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This has more to do with reservac failures with complicated routings than married segment logic. Many ofnthe fares that are published are not available online and/or agents don't even know they exist.
Op, When you call in just ask them to make sure their "connection arrows" are on. They will know what this means. This will usually work for under 4 segments. anything more will require a more
Manual approach to searching (the Agents should also know this term as well) That's all I can say for now.
But yes, if ita is displaying a fare and you are compliant with all the fare rules (especially advance purchase requirement and watch for sales/ticketing restrictions) then they should be able to replicate the fare.
Op, When you call in just ask them to make sure their "connection arrows" are on. They will know what this means. This will usually work for under 4 segments. anything more will require a more
Manual approach to searching (the Agents should also know this term as well) That's all I can say for now.
But yes, if ita is displaying a fare and you are compliant with all the fare rules (especially advance purchase requirement and watch for sales/ticketing restrictions) then they should be able to replicate the fare.
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Thank you to all for sharing!! I personally have always found a way to "work around" issues and find a good fare but it didn't work this time (well actually it did as a good fare popped up after trying to use Matrix and Google Flight). But I now know how to get more out of the software.