AC moving from 23 ticketing platforms to 1 - March 2016
#46
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: YXY
Posts: 3,507
This will bring a lot of grief to us travellers. Not due to IT failures, but due to IT features. I fear a chaos like the lufthansa group and NZ have introduced: Lots of extra fees, disconnected from the booking class. You could book the most expensive booking class and still be forced to pay extra for lots of things. No free checked luggage for status passengers, etc.
When the load factor is high, they stop caring about customer loyalty.
When the load factor is high, they stop caring about customer loyalty.
#47
Join Date: Oct 2004
Programs: Aeroplan, Delta, Starwood, Fairmount
Posts: 2,312
...IT should be managed by a customer focused technical person who's strength is managing people and is capable of communicating their vision to the team.
Yes, and that is what I should have said !!!
I was a tekkie for my first 20 or so years in IT and a manager for the last 24 ...
Thank you!!!
Yes, and that is what I should have said !!!
I was a tekkie for my first 20 or so years in IT and a manager for the last 24 ...
Thank you!!!
#48
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 6,222
This will bring a lot of grief to us travellers. Not due to IT failures, but due to IT features. I fear a chaos like the lufthansa group and NZ have introduced: Lots of extra fees, disconnected from the booking class. You could book the most expensive booking class and still be forced to pay extra for lots of things. No free checked luggage for status passengers, etc.
When the load factor is high, they stop caring about customer loyalty.
When the load factor is high, they stop caring about customer loyalty.
#49
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MLL / AC Cafe
Programs: It's hard to get status when the website won't let me book flights.
Posts: 5,712
...IT should be managed by a customer focused technical person who's strength is managing people and is capable of communicating their vision to the team.
Yes, and that is what I should have said !!!
I was a tekkie for my first 20 or so years in IT and a manager for the last 24 ...
Thank you!!!
Yes, and that is what I should have said !!!
I was a tekkie for my first 20 or so years in IT and a manager for the last 24 ...
Thank you!!!
#51
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, DL GM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,849
#53
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Canada
Programs: Aeroplan E50/MM, HH gold, Nat Exec Elite, Kimpton Karma
Posts: 2,370
#54
Suspended
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 557
#55
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Chilling with penguins
Posts: 13,043
I've come to the conclusion that IT development, implementation, and changes never go well in any large organization.
At the beginning, everyone dreams in technicolour and the IT folks blow rainbows up people's arses.
By project's end, all the good stuff has been delayed (or, if you're unlucky, scoped out), costs have overrun 10000%, things don't work, things that should be tested aren't (I once got scolded for breaking the system because I didn't follow procedures -- I thought that was a good thing), and there's absolutely no accountability.
The organization takes the brunt of it (made fun of, called stupid, look incompetent, etc.) while the IT consultants still get paid their full rates and have a guaranteed contract for life because they have just ensured future work for themselves.
Am I wrong?
(Oh, and this sounds like construction as well.)
At the beginning, everyone dreams in technicolour and the IT folks blow rainbows up people's arses.
By project's end, all the good stuff has been delayed (or, if you're unlucky, scoped out), costs have overrun 10000%, things don't work, things that should be tested aren't (I once got scolded for breaking the system because I didn't follow procedures -- I thought that was a good thing), and there's absolutely no accountability.
The organization takes the brunt of it (made fun of, called stupid, look incompetent, etc.) while the IT consultants still get paid their full rates and have a guaranteed contract for life because they have just ensured future work for themselves.
Am I wrong?
(Oh, and this sounds like construction as well.)
#56
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 6,222
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That's why software people should only be let out of their cages under direct, immediate and heavily armed supervision.
And it's not just *large* software projects that go that way.
That's why software people should only be let out of their cages under direct, immediate and heavily armed supervision.
And it's not just *large* software projects that go that way.
#57
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: OSL
Programs: AC SE
Posts: 303
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (BlackBerry; U; BlackBerry 9780; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.8+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.0.666 Mobile Safari/534.8+)
That's why software people should only be let out of their cages under direct, immediate and heavily armed supervision.
And it's not just *large* software projects that go that way.
That's why software people should only be let out of their cages under direct, immediate and heavily armed supervision.
And it's not just *large* software projects that go that way.
The biggest one that I've run into in any large systems deployment is this notion that one big flip from one thing to the next is the right way - because obviously you've tested it all in QA and it should just work. If it doesn't, roll it back! Why do you think there are so many problems with all of these sites and systems... because downtime is "acceptable" for so many of them. Downtime is almost never acceptable.
How much you want to bet a good chunk of the people on this forum could run the IT group at AC infinitely better for far less money (given a couple of years to make the switch)?
#58
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YYC
Posts: 23,851
BTW, seems that at this point, things are still working as usual. Month is not over so looks like the switch has not happened yet.
Good thing is, I don't need to buy a ticket any time soon.