Originally Posted by adam.smith (Post 25823860)

I'm not sure how that was unclear. There's likely very little return on dollars AC spends on FF benefits for infrequent flyers who happen to buy a high-margin fare.

Originally Posted by Absolute (Post 25825122)

This; otherwise someone could buy unlimited FP's and make SE100K on AQD without actually taking a single flight.

Wait... all that money for AC without needing to provide someone the benefits? Oops.

Originally Posted by CloudsBelow (Post 25825428)

Are you saying AC would see very little return if, for example, they allowed true J fares to have access to Concierge and to get the meal they want?
The people who have the means and need for real J fares are the most coveted passengers for any airline - doesn't matter if they fly weekly or every full moon.
Passengers forking over upwards of $1,000/hour are passengers you better keep happy, cause there aren't many of them out there.

Originally Posted by Roadwork (Post 25826241)

I'm writing something for a newspaper on a closely related subject right now, as it happens. Would anyone who regularly pays their own way on full-fare J be interested in talking briefly offline? PM me.

Originally Posted by Allvest (Post 25827701)

A real airline allows premium cabin passengers to pre select their meals and even publish their menus on line.

Originally Posted by BrotherBranwell (Post 25821529)

AC's treatment of those buying (non-discounted) J fares is a joke. Not even first choice of meals, largely shunned by concierges, no way of even contacting concierges by phone, limited miles, limited AQS etc etc

While I recognise that we are in the minority on this Board I'd think AC would treat its highest RASK customers better - but no. I'm one that has spent way more than $20K with AC some years but don't even come close to SE.

And please don't say that full J customers don't need SE benefits - just having what is left of IKK would make a big difference.

Originally Posted by Allvest (Post 25827701)

A real airline allows premium cabin passengers to pre select their meals and even publish their menus on line.

Originally Posted by 24left (Post 25827834)

Ok. Is this where I should post my pre-order menus from the "other" airlines, or should we start a new thread? :D

Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 25827865)

Well I'll admit I haven't flown many airlines' premium cabins on international flights, but AC/UA/LH do not do that.

Although I suspect were getting quite a bit off topic :p

Originally Posted by Allvest (Post 25828356)

LH F shows their menu but doesn't allow a preordered meal.

Originally Posted by chovaz (Post 25826568)

You already can make SE100K without taking a single flight. Some (or all? not sure) FP offer 10k status miles/month (I'm guessing that these status miles count as AC miles, meeting the AC metal threshold.) 120k per year = instant SE even if you never use the thing. Not sure WHY you'd do that, but it's certainly possible.

Originally Posted by Allvest (Post 25828356)

LH F shows their menu but doesn't allow a preordered meal. TG and SQ allow pre ordered meals as do a few other airlines.

Originally Posted by Wpgjetse (Post 25828866)

When did AC get F cabins? Also, it is my understanding LH is reducing a lot of F cabins.

Originally Posted by 24left (Post 25829256)

(bolding mine)

Are you confused or was that a typo?

1. Allvest wrote LH F.
2. It is irrelevant that LH or other carriers are reducing routes with F cabins. The topic of the posts above is pre-ordering meals
3. I recently pre-ordered (and received) meals on AA, BR and SQ
4. BA recently announced they are doing it

And so it goes.

Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 25829367)

I think the point is that it's irrelevant what LH F does, because we're talking about AC J. If LH J did it, it would be a valid comparison.

Originally Posted by Wpgjetse (Post 25828866)

When did AC get F cabins? Also, it is my understanding LH is reducing a lot of F cabins.

Originally Posted by CloudsBelow (Post 25825428)

Are you saying AC would see very little return if, for example, they allowed true J fares to have access to Concierge and to get the meal they want?......