Craziness in YYG
#1
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Join Date: Jul 2015
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Craziness in YYG
Hi! This is my first post with FT, but I've been lurking for a while. And of course, I'm starting out by complaining
This am at YYG while waiting in the priority line (J class, SE100k) the agent was helping a couple in coach with 10+ Bags when I walked up behind another SE who was already waiting.
The agent proceeded to take almost half an hour to figure out the couple's luggage and tickets. All the other agents continued to check in the folks in the regular line and ignore the two SE's in the priority line, despite our attempts to make eye contact and wave.
The other SE and I started chatting and were trying to be good natured about it, but I'm standing there in my high heels watching everyone in the coach line, plus at least a dozen folks who arrived well after me, pass me to get checked in first.
When I was finally checked in, the agent just said they were busy helping others and didn't seem concerned.
The whole thing was complete chaos. And, after all that, they announce there is no tea or coffee on board the flight so we should make sure to purchase some... So I'm not sure which karma gods I angered this am!
Usually the AC staff are extra wonderful at YYG, but I do wish they were alert to the few of us who fly far too much are standing in the priority line. Standing around for almost 30 minutes on my feet while I'm spending the kind of money I do each month on AC doesn't exactly scream, "We value your business."
/rant now complete!
This am at YYG while waiting in the priority line (J class, SE100k) the agent was helping a couple in coach with 10+ Bags when I walked up behind another SE who was already waiting.
The agent proceeded to take almost half an hour to figure out the couple's luggage and tickets. All the other agents continued to check in the folks in the regular line and ignore the two SE's in the priority line, despite our attempts to make eye contact and wave.
The other SE and I started chatting and were trying to be good natured about it, but I'm standing there in my high heels watching everyone in the coach line, plus at least a dozen folks who arrived well after me, pass me to get checked in first.
When I was finally checked in, the agent just said they were busy helping others and didn't seem concerned.
The whole thing was complete chaos. And, after all that, they announce there is no tea or coffee on board the flight so we should make sure to purchase some... So I'm not sure which karma gods I angered this am!
Usually the AC staff are extra wonderful at YYG, but I do wish they were alert to the few of us who fly far too much are standing in the priority line. Standing around for almost 30 minutes on my feet while I'm spending the kind of money I do each month on AC doesn't exactly scream, "We value your business."
/rant now complete!
#3
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YYG has a priority/se line?
Also "all the other agents". How many were on at YYG. I'm used to be there being perhaps 2 at best at stations like YSJ, YYG is a similar no?.
Thing is, if the agent spent 30 minutes dealing with that somebody the number 1 issue isn't that you weren't dealt with quicker/next but that it took 30 minutes to process that case in the first place.
That will have held everyone up. I've had times at YYT before where there are too many people bag dropping and not enough staff so I've been kept in line waiting whilst they (correctly) try and clear the huge backlog in the normal line.
YYT I wouldn't even call a small station by any means. But when you get down to small stations with between 1 and 3 staff, everyone on the same flight you have to accept this might happen, even if it's not supposed to.
Also "all the other agents". How many were on at YYG. I'm used to be there being perhaps 2 at best at stations like YSJ, YYG is a similar no?.
Thing is, if the agent spent 30 minutes dealing with that somebody the number 1 issue isn't that you weren't dealt with quicker/next but that it took 30 minutes to process that case in the first place.
That will have held everyone up. I've had times at YYT before where there are too many people bag dropping and not enough staff so I've been kept in line waiting whilst they (correctly) try and clear the huge backlog in the normal line.
YYT I wouldn't even call a small station by any means. But when you get down to small stations with between 1 and 3 staff, everyone on the same flight you have to accept this might happen, even if it's not supposed to.
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#7
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I had the same experience while checking in (J) at DXB for a flight to PEK aboard CA.
Priority line was trying to sort out the ticket of the couple ahead of us and all the while the other 2 positions checked in Y class.
When it was all said and done 40-50 people in the Y class line checked in ahead of us and we where the last in line and to go through security.
Priority lines can be a god send but sometimes are less useful then the regular lines.
Priority line was trying to sort out the ticket of the couple ahead of us and all the while the other 2 positions checked in Y class.
When it was all said and done 40-50 people in the Y class line checked in ahead of us and we where the last in line and to go through security.
Priority lines can be a god send but sometimes are less useful then the regular lines.
#8
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: YYT
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YYT is the worst for this. Everytime I line up in the P Lane (as a lowly E50) there is always a customer with some problem being sorted out, or the family with 10 kids getting checked-in. In my opinion, the agent working this desk should be available only for priority check-in, even if the regular line is lined up down the street. After all, that is the service they are offering. I'm sure the agent likes to help out the other agents, but a dedicated desk is just that.
#9
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Yes, definitely an issue at smaller stations, particularly during the summer. YHZ is more of a mid-size station, but a few weeks back, there were non-status customers had lined up ahead of us in the priority lane, and the agent proceeded to check them in, despite not being eligible for priority check-in. They spent about 5 minutes arguing with the agent over paying bag fees, so didn't have status and weren't traveling J.
It's unfortunate when the agents proceed to help customers like that who have lined up in the wrong line, but keep the SE/J passengers waiting. Seems to be more of an issue at small and mid-sized airports (often the larger stations seem to have agents directing customers before they line up).
It's unfortunate when the agents proceed to help customers like that who have lined up in the wrong line, but keep the SE/J passengers waiting. Seems to be more of an issue at small and mid-sized airports (often the larger stations seem to have agents directing customers before they line up).
#10
Join Date: Mar 2010
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It can happen anywhere when there is no one in the SE line, the agent calls the next person from the Elite or regular line, and bingo, there are suddenly 10 people, kids, bags, strollers at the SE desk. Happened to me recently at domestic/intl SE check-in at YYZ. Agent realized, tried to phone for help (no response) and eventually told the large group to stand aside while she dealt with the SE's in line.
A few years ago, I stood unattended in the SE line while all other priority pax were handled -just decided to stand and wait and see if anyone noticed or cared. They did not (also at YYZ).
A few years ago, I stood unattended in the SE line while all other priority pax were handled -just decided to stand and wait and see if anyone noticed or cared. They did not (also at YYZ).
#11
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I actually have a solution that would greatly mitigate this problem. Basically, the EXITS of all the lines need to be right beside each other. The problem in most stations seems to be that you have the SE line exiting at one end, and the priority line exiting 20 feet down. Or Priority and regular exiting 20 feet apart.
Make them all exit in the middle (this is not difficult - the YYZ transborder check-in area does this, although they have the stupid SE rope), and then every agent and passenger can easily see that there's someone in the "more priority" line.
"Next Super Elite please" or "Next priority please", and turn away someone who tries jump the queue.
YYT is the worst for this. Everytime I line up in the P Lane (as a lowly E50) there is always a customer with some problem being sorted out, or the family with 10 kids getting checked-in. In my opinion, the agent working this desk should be available only for priority check-in, even if the regular line is lined up down the street. After all, that is the service they are offering. I'm sure the agent likes to help out the other agents, but a dedicated desk is just that.
In my opinion, YVR transborder is the worst. It's a big station, with lots of staff, and there's even an SE line. I stood there for 20 minutes, while the priority and regular line both emptied out. I wrote in about that, and they said they'd let the station manager know, but I have my doubts.
My favourite is YVR domestic, because of the arrogance of the check-in agent who called me from the SE line. "Sir, please stand aside so I can help these priority passengers." Like... excuse me?
Check-in lines are the absolute worst unless the staff know you. Which for me, means SFO. I think everyone in a blue/grey tie/scarf knows my face, so if they see me in line, they call me over by name, and start working on my boarding passes.
Ugh. I need to stop ranting and get back to work
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#13
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And not everyone suffers from DYKWIA syndrome.
But back in the day I used to fly AC regularly (up until 2006), the agents, regardless of which line they were serving, always motionned to the J line if the J agents were busy. Find it strange that this is no longer the case.
But back in the day I used to fly AC regularly (up until 2006), the agents, regardless of which line they were serving, always motionned to the J line if the J agents were busy. Find it strange that this is no longer the case.
#14
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Join Date: Jul 2015
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Thanks for the replies to my whining
To be fair, YYG has been wonderful to fly out of in my experience. The staff there have usually been friendly, attentive and accommodating.
For those asking, there were 4 agents, 1 for P and other 3 for regular.
I agree - I could have been more aggressive and cut in front, but honestly that's not my style. That said - I got my knickers in a knot this am, but I should have remembered it's not like the agents were sitting around chit-chatting - they were working their butts off.
In retrospect, I should have just had an extra coffee on the way to the airport and chilled out a bit. Life's too short.
To be fair, YYG has been wonderful to fly out of in my experience. The staff there have usually been friendly, attentive and accommodating.
For those asking, there were 4 agents, 1 for P and other 3 for regular.
I agree - I could have been more aggressive and cut in front, but honestly that's not my style. That said - I got my knickers in a knot this am, but I should have remembered it's not like the agents were sitting around chit-chatting - they were working their butts off.
In retrospect, I should have just had an extra coffee on the way to the airport and chilled out a bit. Life's too short.
#15
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Join Date: Jul 2015
Programs: SE100k
Posts: 37
I actually have a solution that would greatly mitigate this problem. Basically, the EXITS of all the lines need to be right beside each other. The problem in most stations seems to be that you have the SE line exiting at one end, and the priority line exiting 20 feet down. Or Priority and regular exiting 20 feet apart.
Make them all exit in the middle (this is not difficult - the YYZ transborder check-in area does this, although they have the stupid SE rope), and then every agent and passenger can easily see that there's someone in the "more priority" line.
"Next Super Elite please" or "Next priority please", and turn away someone who tries jump the queue.