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Air Canada adding Lyon and London Gatwick in 2016

Air Canada adding Lyon and London Gatwick in 2016

Old Jun 25, 15, 6:26 am
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Air Canada adding Lyon and London Gatwick in 2016

AC adding year round mainline service from Montreal to Lyon using A330. rouge seasonal service from Toronto to London Gatwick.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/air-ca...120000847.html
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Old Jun 25, 15, 6:32 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisA330 View Post
AC adding year round mainline service from Montreal to Lyon using A330. rouge seasonal service from Toronto to London Gatwick.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/air-ca...120000847.html
This is now interesting!
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Old Jun 25, 15, 6:47 am
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AC is trying to kill off TS. First they go to Man with rouge now LGW. I can see fares to LHR going up as a result.

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Old Jun 25, 15, 6:51 am
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Lyon...?
Never knew Lyon had significant traffic from/to Canada.
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Old Jun 25, 15, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by agjil View Post
Lyon...?
Never knew Lyon had significant traffic from/to Canada.
Air Transat serves it in the summer. I suspect AC probably already sells a lot of tickets to Lyon via AF at CDG (which they do do), and other carriers. And since they're selling them, they know exactly how many people are going there.

More interestingly, they've told us what they're doing with 2 of the 14 extra planes they'll have that are currently not scheduled, by next summer.

The more interesting question, is what will the other 12 be doing.
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Old Jun 25, 15, 7:05 am
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Looks like the LGW is a response to Westjet and to protect yields on LHR mainline services. Suspect they will only compete on price to LGW.
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Old Jun 25, 15, 7:06 am
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Originally Posted by oblender View Post
AC is trying to kill off TS. First they go to Man with rouge now LGW. I can see fares to LHR going up as a result.
Uhm it's called competition AC served MAN well ahead of TS years ago. Was TS trying to kill off AC?

AC previously served LYS from YMQ (YMX?) on the 767.
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Old Jun 25, 15, 7:08 am
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Originally Posted by Altaflyer View Post
Looks like the LGW is a response to Westjet and to protect yields on LHR mainline services. Suspect they will only compete on price to LGW.
You do realize they're adding at least 150 seats a day to LHR next summer from YYZ. 777s will have more seats than they do now. And I suspect given the fact that Air Canada can actually offer details (WJA doesn't have these to offer yet) that the return to LGW may have already been planned.
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Old Jun 25, 15, 7:11 am
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AC fighting off Transat and Westjet, nothing more.
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Old Jun 25, 15, 7:16 am
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Originally Posted by Symmetre View Post
AC fighting off Transat and Westjet, nothing more.
Lyon is one of those routes that has been teetering on the radar for years. Happy (and surprised) that it's returning to mainline. Assumed that secondary markets such as NCE/LYS/MRS/BOD were definitely Rouge-worthy. Obviously market dynamics have changed, and to be deploying an A330 no less
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Old Jun 25, 15, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by ACYYZ/SD View Post
Uhm it's called competition AC served MAN well ahead of TS years ago. Was TS trying to kill off AC?
Rouge has armed AC with the ability to hunt down TS (and WS to a lesser extent). They smell blood in the TS water . . . This is business.
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Old Jun 25, 15, 7:37 am
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Originally Posted by Symmetre View Post
AC fighting off Transat and Westjet, nothing more.
LOL . . . "Fighting off TS" ....... You seem to have a tight grip on the aviation scene in this country. Keep sharing the valuable insight!!
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Old Jun 25, 15, 7:47 am
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Originally Posted by ACYYZ/SD View Post
Uhm it's called competition AC served MAN well ahead of TS years ago. Was TS trying to kill off AC?

AC previously served LYS from YMQ (YMX?) on the 767.
TS cannot kill AC or try since AC is a bigger monster than TS.
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Old Jun 25, 15, 7:48 am
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Originally Posted by CloudsBelow View Post
Rouge has armed AC with the ability to hunt down TS (and WS to a lesser extent). They smell blood in the TS water . . . This is business.
Viscous Business practice might I say. Killing the competitor is acceptable in Business.

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Old Jun 25, 15, 7:48 am
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the ironic thing is that generally, the mostly uneducated Canadian traveler (yes, that general statement can be made) still thinks that AC is leaps and bounds above charters. the irony is that when it comes to rouge, there are no leaps and no bounds above anything.
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