Does the IKK benefit not apply to Rouge flights?
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Does the IKK benefit not apply to Rouge flights?
I've been trying to book YYZ-MCO for a family holiday and have noticed that on multiple dates/flights IKK economy flights are not available even when the flight is clearly not in an oversell situation (cheaper Flex fares being sold and seat map is only half full). I can purchase Aeroplan market fares on these same dates for 25% more miles (and slightly lower fees), but no IKK.
I confess that I have no previous experience trying to IKK economy class Rouge flights. Have they always been excepted from IKK or is this a new development? Given the ever expanding footprint of Rouge, I hope that this is a short term technical issue rather than a policy. I have sent a PM to Ben asking for assistance or clarification.
SG
I confess that I have no previous experience trying to IKK economy class Rouge flights. Have they always been excepted from IKK or is this a new development? Given the ever expanding footprint of Rouge, I hope that this is a short term technical issue rather than a policy. I have sent a PM to Ben asking for assistance or clarification.
SG
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Maybe it is just me
...or perhaps they are now restricting it on dates/routes that they expect to sell out.
I will report back if Ben responds to my IM.
SG
...or perhaps they are now restricting it on dates/routes that they expect to sell out.
I will report back if Ben responds to my IM.
SG
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I had to do some shenanigans to IKK a rouge flight a year ago (it was booked 150/150, but I wanted to cancel my existing ticket and rebook it), and I know for a fact I got the last seat.
I'd call in and ask them about it. Lower Flex fares being available does not mean they're not oversold, and an empty seat map on a route that sells lots of Tango also doesn't mean much.
I'd call in and ask them about it. Lower Flex fares being available does not mean they're not oversold, and an empty seat map on a route that sells lots of Tango also doesn't mean much.
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"I can purchase Aeroplan market fares on these same dates for 25% more miles (and slightly lower fees), but no IKK"
----> Yup. That seems to be the new 1KK. I can confirm that experience
"I hope that this is a short term technical issue rather than a policy. "
-----> Doubtful! It's all policy.
I have sent a PM to Ben asking for assistance or clarification.
-----> Good luck with that.
Welcome to the new SE.
----> Yup. That seems to be the new 1KK. I can confirm that experience
"I hope that this is a short term technical issue rather than a policy. "
-----> Doubtful! It's all policy.
I have sent a PM to Ben asking for assistance or clarification.
-----> Good luck with that.
Welcome to the new SE.
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Op, did you try calling the Aeroplan line to see what they had to say? I have had a lot of success with YEG PHX IKK this winter. I have flown 11 family members on different dates via ACr on IKK when Classic flights weren't available.
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I think the real question is: do benefits that Altitude members receive on AC also accrue on all rouge flights in exactly the same way? Not having time to read all the T&Cs at Altitude right now, do they explicitly state any thing other than AC (mainlane)? In the past AC Express/Jazz was included. But is that coincidental or deliberate policy?