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Old Jan 11, 2018, 2:19 pm
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Originally Posted by flybit
lol the 6 A380s that SQ returned, have no buyer so they might be sold for scrap value, and if AC waits, as more A380s hit the market the scrap value might drop.
When you say returned, you mean the lease term is up and they are being returned as per their original contract, right?

Maybe a military will pick up a few to use as troop transports?
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 4:24 pm
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I know - a FT 'Do' in a recently returned SQ 380.
Even if it was static we could have some fun. Except for the RCHHMP of course. They could supervise.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 4:40 pm
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Not even A380, whether AC will operate any Airbus in the near future may be a question. Since AC has opted for B737 MAX and B787, it is unlikely that AC will buy A320 Neo or A350 in the near future. Once A320s and A330s retire in the near future, we may not see any AC Airbus at all.

As for A380 and B748, the future of these birds seem to be inversely proportional to the future of B787 and A350. A380 and B748 are designed for hub and spoke model, while B787 and A350 are designed for point to point model. Giving the current market conditions, most of the airlines are opting for the point to point model. Even for hub to hub routes, many airlines prefer to use slightly smaller planes for frequency rather than larger planes for efficiency.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 5:19 pm
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Songs, rouge has a whole fleet of brand new A321 that are likely to be flying for another 20 Years.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by The Lev
Songs, rouge has a whole fleet of brand new A321 that are likely to be flying for another 20 Years.
All five of them. However mainline has another 15. Not exactly sure how new, but on the whole defnitely newer than the 320s.

OTOH Rouge has 20 319s. Not very new, not very old.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 5:49 pm
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At this point is it safe to nominate this thread for dumbest of 2017?

(Yes, there is some interesting discussion here. But on the whole the whole premise of AC buying A380s is just dumb.)
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 5:54 pm
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Originally Posted by songsc
Not even A380, whether AC will operate any Airbus in the near future may be a question. Since AC has opted for B737 MAX and B787, it is unlikely that AC will buy A320 Neo or A350 in the near future. Once A320s and A330s retire in the near future, we may not see any AC Airbus at all.
What about the C-Series?
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by ridefar
At this point is it safe to nominate this thread for dumbest of 2017?
It's actually a 2014 thread, which was revived from the grave by a certain cheeky gentleman who likes to stir the pot.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 10:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
It's actually a 2014 thread, which was revived from the grave by a certain cheeky gentleman who likes to stir the pot.
Well then, dumbest thread for both 2014 and 2017? Two time winner.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 10:42 pm
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It's 2018.

In any case you might want to hold off until 2020.
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Old Jan 12, 2018, 5:10 am
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Originally Posted by ridefar
At this point is it safe to nominate this thread for dumbest of 2017?

(Yes, there is some interesting discussion here. But on the whole the whole premise of AC buying A380s is just dumb.)
I disagree.

We should merely turn discussion into a just as likely similar subject, speculating on whether AC will purchase A300-600STs to ferry cargo between YYJ and YVR.

Please discuss.
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Old Jan 12, 2018, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by Bonaventure
I disagree.

We should merely turn discussion into a just as likely similar subject, speculating on whether AC will purchase A300-600STs to ferry cargo between YYJ and YVR.

Please discuss.
And going for the trifecta!
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Old Jan 12, 2018, 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by songsc
Not even A380, whether AC will operate any Airbus in the near future may be a question. Since AC has opted for B737 MAX and B787, it is unlikely that AC will buy A320 Neo or A350 in the near future. Once A320s and A330s retire in the near future, we may not see any AC Airbus at all.

As for A380 and B748, the future of these birds seem to be inversely proportional to the future of B787 and A350. A380 and B748 are designed for hub and spoke model, while B787 and A350 are designed for point to point model. Giving the current market conditions, most of the airlines are opting for the point to point model. Even for hub to hub routes, many airlines prefer to use slightly smaller planes for frequency rather than larger planes for efficiency.
AC has some 330's also, and they are so old there is not much of a market for them either. So i expect AC will be flying Airbus for a lot more years.
Reality AC has to decided what to do with some 767 that will soon be at D check. Perhaps some more cheap very used 330's are in the future.
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Old Jan 12, 2018, 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by flybit
AC has some 330's also, and they are so old there is not much of a market for them either. So i expect AC will be flying Airbus for a lot more years.
Reality AC has to decided what to do with some 767 that will soon be at D check. Perhaps some more cheap very used 330's are in the future.
Come on, the 330s are not particularly old.
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Old Jan 12, 2018, 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by Stranger
All five of them. However mainline has another 15. Not exactly sure how new, but on the whole defnitely newer than the 320s.

OTOH Rouge has 20 319s. Not very new, not very old.
Rouge's A321's are 2 years old while AC's mainline ones are almost 15 years old.

The A319s are on average 19.6 years old compared with 20.3 for the rouge 763's. Interesting that people tend to think of the 763's as long in the tooth when the A319's are within 1 year of their age and have almost certainly done far more cycles.
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Originally Posted by Stranger
Come on, the 330s are not particularly old.
Veritable spring chickens at 17.4 years - 2 years younger than Rouge's A319 fleet. My how time flies.
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