Nov 15, 2014, 2:15 pm
Air Canada introduces zoned boarding
Nov 19, 2014, 2:45 am
#376
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IMO, not quite. Today, it's (12|something else), sure, but just wait until the majority of elite pax cannot priority board as we are in zone 2, standing in your way, as we use the scientific process to figure out who can board and who cannot....Do I have a solution, no. Do I think the new zonal boarding will be better for those in 1, 2? I'm not sure as I haven't trialed it...i'll give it the benefit of the doubt.
Nov 19, 2014, 5:08 am
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Nov 19, 2014, 5:27 am
#378
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It doesn't work because people choose to be gate lice regardless of when is their turn to board.
To be honest, I think the only way to have orderly boarding is to adopt a Southwest style system with the corresponding gate infrastructure.
All other systems will have some element of disorder.
To be honest, I think the only way to have orderly boarding is to adopt a Southwest style system with the corresponding gate infrastructure.
All other systems will have some element of disorder.
Nov 19, 2014, 7:31 am
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Now I just say the hell with it and line up in the priority boarding line as soon as I get to the gate from the lounge, usually a few minutes before the stated boarding time on my boarding pass. If I wait until I am called there is usually about half of the plane either in the priority line or blocking access to it. Fixing that would be good!
Nov 19, 2014, 7:32 am
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^^^^^^^ Outstanding answer
Nov 19, 2014, 8:44 am
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I'm flying AC for the first time YUL-SFO next year and was wondering if I could check in and get a mobile boarding pass with my Aegean *G (so I get Zone 2 boarding) and then go back and update my FF# to my UA *S number? This way I get Zone 2 boarding and the miles post to my UA account?
I'm paranoid about it posting to my A3 account (where I don't care for any more miles) and losing out on PQM qualification on my UA account. Does the FF#/program lock up once you check in or can you still update it and print a new boarding pass?
One option I believe that is safe for me is to check in with UA, get a boarding pass, then attempt changing it to A3, grab another boarding pass (which I will use while boarding), then go back to UA and print one final boarding pass with the UA #. Only way this could pwn me is if AC uses the FF# on the boarding pass scanned while boarding to post miles :-|
Any thoughts?
I'm paranoid about it posting to my A3 account (where I don't care for any more miles) and losing out on PQM qualification on my UA account. Does the FF#/program lock up once you check in or can you still update it and print a new boarding pass?
One option I believe that is safe for me is to check in with UA, get a boarding pass, then attempt changing it to A3, grab another boarding pass (which I will use while boarding), then go back to UA and print one final boarding pass with the UA #. Only way this could pwn me is if AC uses the FF# on the boarding pass scanned while boarding to post miles :-|
Any thoughts?
Nov 19, 2014, 9:00 am
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I say good luck with this! I've watched AC passengers board flights for a long time, and only in communist China are people more rude and pushy and ignorant of line culture.
People swarm in from the sides, or push their way into the middle of the line at random completely ignoring the people behind them. Is this a Canadian thing? I saw one jackass on a UA flight ORD YYZ last month who stood off to the side stuffing food in his face...I asked if he was group 1 since he was near that line, he said he was but did not move to the line up. When boarding was called, he walked all the way around groups 1-5 and behind the podium, then popped up in front of the door, cutting off all the other group 1 passengers waiting in line
I can see this plan descending into chaos unless GA's enforce the rules and kick out people who cut in line, and that includes YOU folks doing the same - when someone cuts in, throw them out!
People swarm in from the sides, or push their way into the middle of the line at random completely ignoring the people behind them. Is this a Canadian thing? I saw one jackass on a UA flight ORD YYZ last month who stood off to the side stuffing food in his face...I asked if he was group 1 since he was near that line, he said he was but did not move to the line up. When boarding was called, he walked all the way around groups 1-5 and behind the podium, then popped up in front of the door, cutting off all the other group 1 passengers waiting in line
I can see this plan descending into chaos unless GA's enforce the rules and kick out people who cut in line, and that includes YOU folks doing the same - when someone cuts in, throw them out!
Nov 19, 2014, 9:12 am
#383
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I say good luck with this! I've watched AC passengers board flights for a long time, and only in communist China are people more rude and pushy and ignorant of line culture.
People swarm in from the sides, or push their way into the middle of the line at random completely ignoring the people behind them. Is this a Canadian thing? I saw one jackass on a UA flight ORD YYZ last month who stood off to the side stuffing food in his face...I asked if he was group 1 since he was near that line, he said he was but did not move to the line up. When boarding was called, he walked all the way around groups 1-5 and behind the podium, then popped up in front of the door, cutting off all the other group 1 passengers waiting in line
I can see this plan descending into chaos unless GA's enforce the rules and kick out people who cut in line, and that includes YOU folks doing the same - when someone cuts in, throw them out!
People swarm in from the sides, or push their way into the middle of the line at random completely ignoring the people behind them. Is this a Canadian thing? I saw one jackass on a UA flight ORD YYZ last month who stood off to the side stuffing food in his face...I asked if he was group 1 since he was near that line, he said he was but did not move to the line up. When boarding was called, he walked all the way around groups 1-5 and behind the podium, then popped up in front of the door, cutting off all the other group 1 passengers waiting in line
I can see this plan descending into chaos unless GA's enforce the rules and kick out people who cut in line, and that includes YOU folks doing the same - when someone cuts in, throw them out!
Nov 19, 2014, 9:12 am
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Then SFO, where the priority line for YYZ flights are always at least 50 deep.
I say good luck with this! I've watched AC passengers board flights for a long time, and only in communist China are people more rude and pushy and ignorant of line culture.
People swarm in from the sides, or push their way into the middle of the line at random completely ignoring the people behind them. Is this a Canadian thing? I saw one jackass on a UA flight ORD YYZ last month who stood off to the side stuffing food in his face...I asked if he was group 1 since he was near that line, he said he was but did not move to the line up. When boarding was called, he walked all the way around groups 1-5 and behind the podium, then popped up in front of the door, cutting off all the other group 1 passengers waiting in line
I can see this plan descending into chaos unless GA's enforce the rules and kick out people who cut in line, and that includes YOU folks doing the same - when someone cuts in, throw them out!
People swarm in from the sides, or push their way into the middle of the line at random completely ignoring the people behind them. Is this a Canadian thing? I saw one jackass on a UA flight ORD YYZ last month who stood off to the side stuffing food in his face...I asked if he was group 1 since he was near that line, he said he was but did not move to the line up. When boarding was called, he walked all the way around groups 1-5 and behind the podium, then popped up in front of the door, cutting off all the other group 1 passengers waiting in line
I can see this plan descending into chaos unless GA's enforce the rules and kick out people who cut in line, and that includes YOU folks doing the same - when someone cuts in, throw them out!
Nov 19, 2014, 9:19 am
#385
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Since AC operates out of the international terminal now at SFO, perhaps a good solution is to let Zone 1 use the door closest to the jetbridge, and zones 2+ to use the other set of doors
.... hmm I like the ring of that, "super elite/non-SE door" sounds much better than "SE/non-SE line"
Nov 19, 2014, 9:21 am
#386
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I think this is a bit too much, no? From what I read, the majority of people here are all for giving those with true medical reasons the ability to preboard before everyone. Mrs. Penguin would qualify but she still refuses to use it for those even worse off, so I'd like to think the majority of people don't abuse it.
As far as kids preboarding, I'm with Andrew and a few others. Do I hate kids? No, but it's also why I am still choosing to fly AC over WS (fewer kids). I do cherish preboarding and watching AVOD prior to the little ones boarding and looking clueless while walking the aisle.
As far as kids preboarding, I'm with Andrew and a few others. Do I hate kids? No, but it's also why I am still choosing to fly AC over WS (fewer kids). I do cherish preboarding and watching AVOD prior to the little ones boarding and looking clueless while walking the aisle.
And similarly if someone has a young child under 5 then let them on early too.
It does strike me as DYKWIA to say i cannot stand in line an extra five minutes while a person needing extra time or a family with a baby boards ahead of me.
(I never thought anyone was doing it because they hate kids until it was said they can't stand kids.)
Nov 19, 2014, 9:24 am
#387
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^ This.
Thank you! For those who obviously need help, like wheelchair guys and babies with strollers etc. I have no problem.
Just don't want to stand around and wait for those little brats who can walk on their own to board before me. I would rather settle in myself in the seat than standing there waiting.
Thank you! For those who obviously need help, like wheelchair guys and babies with strollers etc. I have no problem.
Just don't want to stand around and wait for those little brats who can walk on their own to board before me. I would rather settle in myself in the seat than standing there waiting.
As for brats - a little much here.
Some young kids are better behaved that SE's and J's in my experience.
Nov 19, 2014, 9:50 am
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I find it slightly amusing that we are so afraid of Zone1/Zone2 line confusion, despite the fact that the line will be mostly used by FF's.
Nov 19, 2014, 10:04 am
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I say good luck with this! I've watched AC passengers board flights for a long time, and only in communist China are people more rude and pushy and ignorant of line culture.
People swarm in from the sides, or push their way into the middle of the line at random completely ignoring the people behind them. Is this a Canadian thing? I saw one jackass on a UA flight ORD YYZ last month who stood off to the side stuffing food in his face...I asked if he was group 1 since he was near that line, he said he was but did not move to the line up. When boarding was called, he walked all the way around groups 1-5 and behind the podium, then popped up in front of the door, cutting off all the other group 1 passengers waiting in line
I can see this plan descending into chaos unless GA's enforce the rules and kick out people who cut in line, and that includes YOU folks doing the same - when someone cuts in, throw them out!
People swarm in from the sides, or push their way into the middle of the line at random completely ignoring the people behind them. Is this a Canadian thing? I saw one jackass on a UA flight ORD YYZ last month who stood off to the side stuffing food in his face...I asked if he was group 1 since he was near that line, he said he was but did not move to the line up. When boarding was called, he walked all the way around groups 1-5 and behind the podium, then popped up in front of the door, cutting off all the other group 1 passengers waiting in line
I can see this plan descending into chaos unless GA's enforce the rules and kick out people who cut in line, and that includes YOU folks doing the same - when someone cuts in, throw them out!
Try boarding in Africa, Eastern Europe, India and any place there are Russians.
Nov 19, 2014, 10:06 am
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