$pend based FF program
#46
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As Clipper noted, concierge only on international business class tickets and not available on domestic (and maybe domestic legs of international ticket--not sure how that works?)
Priority telephone number could also be helpful in some situations.
Meal priority is less than SE.
Priority rewards is a key benefit with Aeroplan but most other benefits are covered.
Priority telephone number could also be helpful in some situations.
Meal priority is less than SE.
Priority rewards is a key benefit with Aeroplan but most other benefits are covered.
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What about luggage? Is it still 3x70 for J?
I'm not saying there are a lot of perks of being SE if you always fly paid J, but there are definitely some.
#49
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In terms of the benefits that are missed by those that buy J fares but don't make SE - IMO by far the biggest is the ability to actually use AE miles. Even in its watered down state IKK is a HUGE benefit. Even more important than the meal priority, being shunned by concierges etc.
As the Bens noted there are some E50s/E75s etc that spend far more than SEs - and yet we get virtually nothing from AC whatsoever.
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It's not hard for UA to track spending when they are operating the flights - revenue is still broken down by segment, and this kind of calculation is already being done by UA. It calculates this for PQD for US-residents today, who are accruing to MP on UA-operated flights ticketed by other carriers.
My understanding of the UA spend program is that it is conditional on mileage achievement. I stand to be corrected on this: you still have to earn 100K miles or 100 segmants to qualify in addition to a spend of $10K. Spend without miles will not qualify for status. There is no chance that an Airline willl give you top-tier status for spending 25K on one return J fare to SYD. If that happens, I will spend $100K/a year for 4 different top tier programs. Where is my loyalty?
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This isn't quite correct. Revenue-based mileage will be applicable to all UA-operated flights no matter who tickets it, with the small exception of bulk/tour tickets that earn mileage, which will be a percentage based on the fare class (as low as 50% for the lower fare classes). Ticketing UA flights on AC and crediting to MP will make no difference to the mileage earned. However, for non UA-ticketed non UA-operated flights accruing to MP, they will continue to be distance-based, assuming its in a class eligible for mileage accrual in the first place.
It's not hard for UA to track spending when they are operating the flights - revenue is still broken down by segment, and this kind of calculation is already being done by UA. It calculates this for PQD for US-residents today, who are accruing to MP on UA-operated flights ticketed by other carriers.
It's not hard for UA to track spending when they are operating the flights - revenue is still broken down by segment, and this kind of calculation is already being done by UA. It calculates this for PQD for US-residents today, who are accruing to MP on UA-operated flights ticketed by other carriers.
Well that changes my beliefs
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This isn't quite correct. Revenue-based mileage will be applicable to all UA-operated flights no matter who tickets it, with the small exception of bulk/tour tickets that earn mileage, which will be a percentage based on the fare class (as low as 50% for the lower fare classes). Ticketing UA flights on AC and crediting to MP will make no difference to the mileage earned. However, for non UA-ticketed non UA-operated flights accruing to MP, they will continue to be distance-based, assuming its in a class eligible for mileage accrual in the first place.
It's not hard for UA to track spending when they are operating the flights - revenue is still broken down by segment, and this kind of calculation is already being done by UA. It calculates this for PQD for US-residents today, who are accruing to MP on UA-operated flights ticketed by other carriers.
It's not hard for UA to track spending when they are operating the flights - revenue is still broken down by segment, and this kind of calculation is already being done by UA. It calculates this for PQD for US-residents today, who are accruing to MP on UA-operated flights ticketed by other carriers.
#53
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In addition to the Benns admitting that some non-SEs spend more than SE, they noted that pricing (flex), restrictions on miles accumulation, etc appear to be working similarly to spend. Next time, quote their full post not just a convenient fraction.
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