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2016 777 Routes

*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.

Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.

Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future

77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto Vancouver Sydney: AC33/34

77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver Tokyo Narita: AC3/4

77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver London Heathrow: AC854/855

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 Aircraft Tracking (last updated Jun 16, 2016)
 Plane       Status       Location Details
 
 77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
 C-FIUA-701  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Apr 09/16  Out:May 09/16  (30 days)
 C-FIUF-702  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Nov 08/15  Out:Dec 27/15  (49 days)
 C-FIUJ-703  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Dec 27/15  Out:Feb 04/16  (39 days)
 C-FIVK-704  Done         Loc:HKG  In:May 09/16  Out:Jun 08/16  (30 days)
 C-FNND-705  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Mar 09/16  Out:Apr 09/16  (31 days)
 C-FNNH-706  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Feb 04/16  Out:Mar 09/16  (34 days)
 
 77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
 C-FITL-731  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Sep 01/15  Out:Nov 20/15  (80 Days)
 C-FITU-732  Done         Loc:GSO  In:May 03/16  Out:Jun 05/16  (33 days)
 C-FITW-733  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Nov 23/15  Out:Jan 06/16  (45 days)
 C-FIUL-734  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Mar 16/16  Out:Apr 17/16  (32 days)  
 C-FIUR-735  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Dec 09/15  Out:Jan 18/16  (40 days)
 C-FIUV-736  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 26/16  Out:Apr 02/16  (36 days)
 C-FIUW-737  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 06/16  Out:Feb 12/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVM-738  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 13/16  Out:Mar 16/16  (32 days)
 C-FRAM-739  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 02/16  Out:May 02/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVQ-740  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 20/16  Out:Feb 26/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVR-741  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 17/16  Out:May 17/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVS-742  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Oct 23/15  Out:Dec 08/15  (46 days)
 
 77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
 C-FIVW-743  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Mar 28/16  Out:Apr 23/16  (26 days)
 C-FIVX-744  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 21/16  Out:Jun 03/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNQ-745  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Jun 03/16  Out:Jun 16/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNU-746  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 06/16  Out:May 21/16  (15 days)
 C-FNNW-747  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Apr 23/16  Out:May 06/16  (13 days)
 C-FJZS-748  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:Mar 24/16  Del:Apr 26/16  EIS:May 18/16
 C-FKAU-749  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:May 01/16  Del:May 21/16  EIS:Jun 10/16


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Old Mar 16, 16, 5:05 am
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I am flying 3 April MUC-YYZ in Business.
As booked it was a A333, now i saw it changed to 77L.
Can you tell me, if its the refurbished version,or the old one with the heringbones?
Thank you.
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Old Mar 16, 16, 7:08 am
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Originally Posted by themrock View Post
I am flying 3 April MUC-YYZ in Business.
As booked it was a A333, now i saw it changed to 77L.
Can you tell me, if its the refurbished version,or the old one with the heringbones?
Thank you.
Aircraft are not route specific and you have pretty much a 50/50 shot. Of the 6
77L's:
Fins 702/703/706 are completed
Fin 705 is in progress (may be completed)
Fin 701/704 are in the original configuration.

Aircraft assignment may change right up until departure date. Given the rotation of these aircraft, checking the day before should be reasonably accurate.
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Old Mar 16, 16, 7:21 am
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I'm on AC 848 YYZ-LHR tonight. It is now showing a 777W. So Am I too assume this is not one of the new refurbished ones?
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Old Mar 16, 16, 7:35 am
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Originally Posted by Silvercity View Post
I'm on AC 848 YYZ-LHR tonight. It is now showing a 777W. So Am I too assume this is not one of the new refurbished ones?
All 777-300's (original/HD/refurbished) are classified as 77W.

AC848 currently is operating with fin 735 (a 3-class newbie!) 40J/24PY/336Y.

Safe flight.
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Old Mar 16, 16, 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by ACYYZ/SD View Post
All 777-300's (original/HD/refurbished) are classified as 77W.

AC848 currently is operating with fin 735 (a 3-class newbie!) 40J/24PY/336Y.

Safe flight.
Thank You
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Old Mar 16, 16, 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by allanyong View Post
Hey Newguy62, I will travel from YYZ to PEK on that day as well...

While I was able to book PY, so I guess it has a high chance that it is the refub ones?
Lately they have been refurbed planes on that route.
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Old Mar 16, 16, 12:21 pm
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Flying YYZ-YVR next week and my return flight is on a 77W. When I originally booked it showed as the old two-cabin configuration, so I booked and paid for a preferred seat (19H). Looking at the flight today the seat map now shows it has been swapped to an HD, but when I sign in to my booking I was still shown in 19H, which is not a preferred seat in this configuration. I was able to make a change myself, but really AC how hard is it to keep customers who paid for preferred seats in preferred seats when there is an equipment swap??
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Old Mar 16, 16, 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by laner View Post
... but really AC how hard is it to keep customers who paid for preferred seats in preferred seats when there is an equipment swap??
IT limitation.
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Old Mar 16, 16, 1:57 pm
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Been watching this thread since it started, great job keeping it updated ^

Family and I fly out next Thursday YVR-YYZ and we are all in J and its a 77W HD aircraft, odds are low that it may be switched to a newbie as the wife has yet experience the new suites with the 18 inch flat screens. But I keep hoping
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Old Mar 16, 16, 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin View Post
IT limitation.
I think the point is that this shouldn't be an IT limitation. This is actually something that is really easy to deal with! The problem is a business case needs to be made to justify doing it. And inexperienced IT Directors don't know how to make a business case that shows saved time and frustration with Gate Agents, FA's, and Customer Service.
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Old Mar 17, 16, 5:53 am
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What about the a330s? Previously they talked about them being refurbished to add Py I seem to recall in 2015-2016, but no word yet....
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Old Mar 17, 16, 6:15 am
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Originally Posted by highlander88 View Post
What about the a330s? Previously they talked about them being refurbished to add Py I seem to recall in 2015-2016, but no word yet....
Planned -- Fall 2016 AFAIK, presumably after the Summer rush.
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Old Mar 17, 16, 9:06 am
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I really wish they code the 77W differently, like CX do

4 versions of 77W is just crazy. Luckily I'll still be on 3-3-3 77W for CDG-YYZ this month, whew

Boeing 777-300ER (77W) Two Class (Most Common)
Open Suite Business (Rows 1-11)
Standard Economy (Rows 18-63)

Boeing 777-300ER (77W) Three Class V1
Flat Bed Business (Rows 1-7)
Standard Premium Economy (Rows 12-14)
Standard Economy (Rows 18-63)

Boeing 777-300ER (77W) Three Class V2
Flat Bed Business (Rows 1-11)
Standard Premium Economy (Rows 12-14)
Standard Economy (Rows 18-64)

Boeing 777-300ER (77W) Three Class V3
Flat Bed Business (Rows 1-7)
Standard Premium Economy (Rows 12-14)
Standard Economy (Rows 18-63)
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Old Mar 17, 16, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by jerryhung View Post
I really wish they code the 77W differently, like CX do

4 versions of 77W is just crazy. Luckily I'll still be on 3-3-3 77W for CDG-YYZ this month, whew
I thought CDG-YYZ was a 788 route? In which case 3-3-3 is the same size as 3-4-3 777.

Even if it is a 777 route, the likelihood of you getting an old one is low at this point. There are only 2x 77W and 2x 77L flying in the old config (plus a 77W in maintenance).
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Old Mar 17, 16, 10:37 am
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Originally Posted by rehoult View Post
I thought CDG-YYZ was a 788 route? In which case 3-3-3 is the same size as 3-4-3 777.

Even if it is a 777 route, the likelihood of you getting an old one is low at this point. There are only 2x 77W and 2x 77L flying in the old config (plus a 77W in maintenance).
777 route. A refurb one at that.
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