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2016 777 Routes

*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.

Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.

Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future

77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto Vancouver Sydney: AC33/34

77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver Tokyo Narita: AC3/4

77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver London Heathrow: AC854/855

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 Aircraft Tracking (last updated Jun 16, 2016)
 Plane       Status       Location Details
 
 77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
 C-FIUA-701  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Apr 09/16  Out:May 09/16  (30 days)
 C-FIUF-702  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Nov 08/15  Out:Dec 27/15  (49 days)
 C-FIUJ-703  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Dec 27/15  Out:Feb 04/16  (39 days)
 C-FIVK-704  Done         Loc:HKG  In:May 09/16  Out:Jun 08/16  (30 days)
 C-FNND-705  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Mar 09/16  Out:Apr 09/16  (31 days)
 C-FNNH-706  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Feb 04/16  Out:Mar 09/16  (34 days)
 
 77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
 C-FITL-731  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Sep 01/15  Out:Nov 20/15  (80 Days)
 C-FITU-732  Done         Loc:GSO  In:May 03/16  Out:Jun 05/16  (33 days)
 C-FITW-733  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Nov 23/15  Out:Jan 06/16  (45 days)
 C-FIUL-734  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Mar 16/16  Out:Apr 17/16  (32 days)  
 C-FIUR-735  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Dec 09/15  Out:Jan 18/16  (40 days)
 C-FIUV-736  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 26/16  Out:Apr 02/16  (36 days)
 C-FIUW-737  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 06/16  Out:Feb 12/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVM-738  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 13/16  Out:Mar 16/16  (32 days)
 C-FRAM-739  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 02/16  Out:May 02/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVQ-740  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 20/16  Out:Feb 26/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVR-741  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 17/16  Out:May 17/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVS-742  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Oct 23/15  Out:Dec 08/15  (46 days)
 
 77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
 C-FIVW-743  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Mar 28/16  Out:Apr 23/16  (26 days)
 C-FIVX-744  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 21/16  Out:Jun 03/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNQ-745  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Jun 03/16  Out:Jun 16/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNU-746  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 06/16  Out:May 21/16  (15 days)
 C-FNNW-747  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Apr 23/16  Out:May 06/16  (13 days)
 C-FJZS-748  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:Mar 24/16  Del:Apr 26/16  EIS:May 18/16
 C-FKAU-749  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:May 01/16  Del:May 21/16  EIS:Jun 10/16


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Old Mar 10, 16, 10:53 am
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Originally Posted by jasdou View Post
Has a refurb plan been announced for the 767 and 333 sub-fleets once the 777 refurbishment program is complete?
333s will get PY (but not new J, I believe). 763s will not be refurbished.
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Old Mar 10, 16, 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by GJS - yow View Post
In the Wiki, thee is a post from last August with the planned service dates for the refurbished aircraft on specific routes. Have there been any updates to this?

I am specifically interested in YUL-CDG (I'm flying on 12 March). The Wiki shows the 450-seater 777-300ER (J28W24Y398) on this route as of 4 March. However, the seat maps are showing the 400-seater 777-300ER (J40W24Y336) all this week for AC870. Also, none of the 77W (J28) versions have been refurbished, according to the Wiki.

Anyone have experience in the last couple of days on this route as to which of the many versions of the 77W is flying now?
Looks like the 400-seater 777-300ER (J40W24Y336) is flying AC870 until at least April.
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Old Mar 10, 16, 9:44 pm
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Originally Posted by alexdelzotto View Post
Looks like the 400-seater 777-300ER (J40W24Y336) is flying AC870 until at least April.
That was my impression from the seat maps, too. I was wondering if someone could confirm that.
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Old Mar 10, 16, 10:16 pm
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I'm on AC870 Friday. Maybe I'll switch my seat and have the entire aft cabin to myself. If I don't have to pay roaming charges, I'll try to post my observations.

Originally Posted by GJS - yow View Post
That was my impression from the seat maps, too. I was wondering if someone could confirm that.
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Old Mar 11, 16, 6:11 am
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Originally Posted by yqtyyz View Post
I'm on AC870 Friday. Maybe I'll switch my seat and have the entire aft cabin to myself. If I don't have to pay roaming charges, I'll try to post my observations.
Knowing which aircraft it is would be great - refurbed 77W (Dream cabin), old pods 77W, or the 77W HD (shudder!).
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Old Mar 11, 16, 6:38 am
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Originally Posted by GJS - yow View Post
Knowing which aircraft it is would be great - refurbed 77W (Dream cabin), old pods 77W, or the 77W HD (shudder!).
Right now 870/12 is showing as operating on Fin 740.
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Old Mar 11, 16, 6:30 pm
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March 11 AC870

Fin 740. 7A/7K seem to be pretty good seats, but they have only 1 window (other seats have 2).
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Old Mar 11, 16, 9:18 pm
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Originally Posted by airstream74 View Post
Right now 870/12 is showing as operating on Fin 740.
What tool/website provides this information? It would be useful over the next couple of months to preview which of the many 777 layouts in the AC fleet that a particular flight is scheduled to use.
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Old Mar 11, 16, 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by GJS - yow View Post
What tool/website provides this information? It would be useful over the next couple of months to preview which of the many 777 layouts in the AC fleet that a particular flight is scheduled to use.
Flightradar24 shows usually the next 1-2 days, but often aircraft are subbed so you really don't know until you have taken off. As for the next few months, the wiki has some specifics, but last-minute changes will happen until the entire fleet is converted.
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Old Mar 12, 16, 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Orcair View Post
Flightradar24 shows usually the next 1-2 days, but often aircraft are subbed so you really don't know until you have taken off. As for the next few months, the wiki has some specifics, but last-minute changes will happen until the entire fleet is converted.
Thanks for the link to FlightRadar24. You are partially right - it shows C-FIVQ for tonight's flight to Paris, but FlightRadar24 identifies the fin as S/N 749 (not 740). The aircraft has just arrived at the gate (nice view from the temporary international YUL lounge), and I can confirm that it is fin 740 and C-FIVQ. The fin (S/N) data on FlightRadar24 is incorrect.
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Old Mar 12, 16, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by GJS - yow View Post
Thanks for the link to FlightRadar24. You are partially right - it shows C-FIVQ for tonight's flight to Paris, but FlightRadar24 identifies the fin as S/N 749 (not 740). The aircraft has just arrived at the gate (nice view from the temporary international YUL lounge), and I can confirm that it is fin 740 and C-FIVQ. The fin (S/N) data on FlightRadar24 is incorrect.
No, it's not incorrect. S/N is Boeing's manufacturing number for the aircraft, fin numbers are AC internal fleet identification numbers. They're different.
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Old Mar 12, 16, 9:22 pm
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777 variants to Beijing from YYZ and YVR

I am heading to Beijing next weekend (Sat 19th) and would go via YVR or YYZ if I could figure out which route has the new pods on the 777. Does anyone know which planes run on these routes? I see the YYZ - PEK flight appears to have PE, so assume it is the new interior. HOWEVER, the YVR flight shows an odd seating config but no PE, so I assume tired old pods? I have found the odd seating layout on website sometimes means new interior. For those long flights it makes a difference- the PE seats are about equal to the old pods to me, so if I'm going to pay the premium for J (P actually), it's only for the good ones. Any advice appreciated - thanks
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Old Mar 12, 16, 9:56 pm
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Originally Posted by newguy62 View Post
777 variants to Beijing from YYZ and YVR

I am heading to Beijing next weekend (Sat 19th) and would go via YVR or YYZ if I could figure out which route has the new pods on the 777. Does anyone know which planes run on these routes? I see the YYZ - PEK flight appears to have PE, so assume it is the new interior. HOWEVER, the YVR flight shows an odd seating config but no PE, so I assume tired old pods? I have found the odd seating layout on website sometimes means new interior. For those long flights it makes a difference- the PE seats are about equal to the old pods to me, so if I'm going to pay the premium for J (P actually), it's only for the good ones. Any advice appreciated - thanks
As of today, it seems that the YYZ flight is the new dreamliner cabin on the 77W given that it is 10 abreast in Y, PY and the correct new J setup. The YVR seat map is quite weird - the J cabin isn't the old or new layout... so I would go via YYZ. Of course, a last minute substitution could occur, but you can't really predict that...
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Old Mar 12, 16, 9:58 pm
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Flew C-FIUF-702 yyz-hkg couple weeks ago. Was nice surprised to get the refurbed plane. Was seated in 4D and it felt a little more cramped than on the 787. It would have been nice if the middle divider could be pushed down if you were travelling with a companion.


Doesn't look like the yvr-hkg planes will be done by the Mar 30. My flight for April 14 is showing the old seat map again
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Old Mar 12, 16, 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by newguy62 View Post
777 variants to Beijing from YYZ and YVR

I am heading to Beijing next weekend (Sat 19th) and would go via YVR or YYZ if I could figure out which route has the new pods on the 777. Does anyone know which planes run on these routes? I see the YYZ - PEK flight appears to have PE, so assume it is the new interior. HOWEVER, the YVR flight shows an odd seating config but no PE, so I assume tired old pods? I have found the odd seating layout on website sometimes means new interior. For those long flights it makes a difference- the PE seats are about equal to the old pods to me, so if I'm going to pay the premium for J (P actually), it's only for the good ones. Any advice appreciated - thanks
I was on 29 from YVR yesterday and it was the refurbished cabin. Nice ride, but the pods are a little tighter than the 787.
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