Aug 21, 2015, 9:39 pm
Last edit by: briguychau
2016 777 Routes
*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.
Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.
Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future
77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary – London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto – Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto – Vancouver – Sydney: AC33/34
77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto – Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto – Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto – Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto – Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto – Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver – Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita: AC3/4
77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal – London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver – Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver – Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver – London Heathrow: AC854/855
*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.
Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.
Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future
77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary – London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto – Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto – Vancouver – Sydney: AC33/34
77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto – Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto – Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto – Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto – Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto – Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver – Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita: AC3/4
77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal – London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver – Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver – Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver – London Heathrow: AC854/855
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Aircraft Tracking (last updated Jun 16, 2016) Plane Status Location Details 77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax) C-FIUA-701 Done Loc:HKG In:Apr 09/16 Out:May 09/16 (30 days) C-FIUF-702 Done Loc:HKG In:Nov 08/15 Out:Dec 27/15 (49 days) C-FIUJ-703 Done Loc:HKG In:Dec 27/15 Out:Feb 04/16 (39 days) C-FIVK-704 Done Loc:HKG In:May 09/16 Out:Jun 08/16 (30 days) C-FNND-705 Done Loc:HKG In:Mar 09/16 Out:Apr 09/16 (31 days) C-FNNH-706 Done Loc:HKG In:Feb 04/16 Out:Mar 09/16 (34 days) 77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax) C-FITL-731 Done Loc:GSO In:Sep 01/15 Out:Nov 20/15 (80 Days) C-FITU-732 Done Loc:GSO In:May 03/16 Out:Jun 05/16 (33 days) C-FITW-733 Done Loc:GSO In:Nov 23/15 Out:Jan 06/16 (45 days) C-FIUL-734 Done Loc:GSO In:Mar 16/16 Out:Apr 17/16 (32 days) C-FIUR-735 Done Loc:GSO In:Dec 09/15 Out:Jan 18/16 (40 days) C-FIUV-736 Done Loc:GSO In:Feb 26/16 Out:Apr 02/16 (36 days) C-FIUW-737 Done Loc:GSO In:Jan 06/16 Out:Feb 12/16 (37 days) C-FIVM-738 Done Loc:GSO In:Feb 13/16 Out:Mar 16/16 (32 days) C-FRAM-739 Done Loc:GSO In:Apr 02/16 Out:May 02/16 (30 days) C-FIVQ-740 Done Loc:GSO In:Jan 20/16 Out:Feb 26/16 (37 days) C-FIVR-741 Done Loc:GSO In:Apr 17/16 Out:May 17/16 (30 days) C-FIVS-742 Done Loc:GSO In:Oct 23/15 Out:Dec 08/15 (46 days) 77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax) C-FIVW-743 Done Loc:YMX In:Mar 28/16 Out:Apr 23/16 (26 days) C-FIVX-744 Done Loc:YMX In:May 21/16 Out:Jun 03/16 (13 days) C-FNNQ-745 Done Loc:YMX In:Jun 03/16 Out:Jun 16/16 (13 days) C-FNNU-746 Done Loc:YMX In:May 06/16 Out:May 21/16 (15 days) C-FNNW-747 Done Loc:YMX In:Apr 23/16 Out:May 06/16 (13 days) C-FJZS-748 In Service Loc:YMX FF:Mar 24/16 Del:Apr 26/16 EIS:May 18/16 C-FKAU-749 In Service Loc:YMX FF:May 01/16 Del:May 21/16 EIS:Jun 10/16
Air Canada plans to refurbish 18 of its 777
Feb 28, 2016, 4:13 pm
#721
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 43
not sure if it's been shared but here's a trip report (not mine)
new J, 777-300
http://flight-report.com/en/report-13037.html
new J, 777-300
http://flight-report.com/en/report-13037.html
Mar 1, 2016, 8:37 pm
#722
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 82
For those of you who have flown the refurbished 400 seat (40J, 24PY, 336Y) 777-300 in PY, any feedback on the differences between rows 12, 13 and 14?
Anyone with feedback on the PY rows on the 789?
Booked in 13A and 13C for both and wondering if the bulkhead row is a better option.
Thanks
Anyone with feedback on the PY rows on the 789?
Booked in 13A and 13C for both and wondering if the bulkhead row is a better option.
Thanks
Mar 2, 2016, 6:12 pm
#723
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 43
For those of you who have flown the refurbished 400 seat (40J, 24PY, 336Y) 777-300 in PY, any feedback on the differences between rows 12, 13 and 14?
Anyone with feedback on the PY rows on the 789?
Booked in 13A and 13C for both and wondering if the bulkhead row is a better option.
Thanks
Anyone with feedback on the PY rows on the 789?
Booked in 13A and 13C for both and wondering if the bulkhead row is a better option.
Thanks
This should help you out.
Mar 2, 2016, 7:30 pm
#724
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: I'm From Here
Programs: AC*SE & MM/*Wood Gold/HHonors Diamond/Marriott Silver/AirMiles Gold
Posts: 4,567
For those of you who have flown the refurbished 400 seat (40J, 24PY, 336Y) 777-300 in PY, any feedback on the differences between rows 12, 13 and 14?
Anyone with feedback on the PY rows on the 789?
Booked in 13A and 13C for both and wondering if the bulkhead row is a better option.
Thanks
Anyone with feedback on the PY rows on the 789?
Booked in 13A and 13C for both and wondering if the bulkhead row is a better option.
Thanks
Mar 2, 2016, 7:57 pm
#725
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: Air Canada Aeroplan
Posts: 1,748
Yes, but the question arises because on the 777HD and 787 the bulkhead has restricted legroom compared to other rows. How is it in the 777 refurbs?
Mar 2, 2016, 8:48 pm
#726
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YYZ / FRA
Programs: IHG RA; Avis First
Posts: 1,444
But coming back I will be seating 14G with the 787.
Mar 5, 2016, 9:40 am
#727
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 30
Hi,
we are flying 3 April Muc-Yyz in Business Class.
Today i looked at my booking and saw that there is an airplane change from Airbus to 777.
Because i booked the flight via Lufthansa i cant see which configuration will fly.
Can you tell me?
We reserved G and K seats, the seats are the same with the 777, is that still okay or are there better seats for a couple in the 777
Thank you.
we are flying 3 April Muc-Yyz in Business Class.
Today i looked at my booking and saw that there is an airplane change from Airbus to 777.
Because i booked the flight via Lufthansa i cant see which configuration will fly.
Can you tell me?
We reserved G and K seats, the seats are the same with the 777, is that still okay or are there better seats for a couple in the 777
Thank you.
Mar 5, 2016, 10:41 am
#728
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Sarasota, FL
Programs: StarWood Hotels-Gold, Loews Hotels-Gold, RCI-Diamond, HH Diamond
Posts: 143
Help Clear Up Confusion
Hi All,
So I understand correctly. We will be flying AC 847 MUC-YYZ June 25, 2016. It is a 777-2LR.
Safe to assume this aircraft will have the updated J like that of the new 787?
The seating chart is showing as two class, but reading through this thread it appears all the refurb should be completed by then.
If this is true, and we are traveling as a couple, best to take two in the middle I presume. Also, any objections to 1D/1G? If like United the center partition comes down for conversation. I see it is close to the galley and not sure if we would be bothered.
Any clarification and help would be much appreciated. This is our first time with AC Business -- looks like a solid product. We typically fly Lufthansa or United J, but if we do in fact have the refurb J suites, it appears these are nicer...?
Many thanks,
Andrew
So I understand correctly. We will be flying AC 847 MUC-YYZ June 25, 2016. It is a 777-2LR.
Safe to assume this aircraft will have the updated J like that of the new 787?
The seating chart is showing as two class, but reading through this thread it appears all the refurb should be completed by then.
If this is true, and we are traveling as a couple, best to take two in the middle I presume. Also, any objections to 1D/1G? If like United the center partition comes down for conversation. I see it is close to the galley and not sure if we would be bothered.
Any clarification and help would be much appreciated. This is our first time with AC Business -- looks like a solid product. We typically fly Lufthansa or United J, but if we do in fact have the refurb J suites, it appears these are nicer...?
Many thanks,
Andrew
Last edited by CoHiba Gent; Mar 5, 2016 at 10:47 am
Mar 5, 2016, 11:05 am
#729
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YYC
Posts: 23,804
Looks like at the moment, there are 6 of the 40-seaters already done, and three with the old pods currently in service. So odds are 2/3 to be on an updated one.
Seat maps on aircanada.com seems to be a generic one that can cover both configurations.
Any other way to find in advance (couple of days) which one it will be?
Mainly an issue of picking up a seat. What shows up as 7D is likely 7A if on a "classic" pod. 6D if on a new one.
Economy seat map always shows old configuration. No matter which date over the whole week.
Seat maps on aircanada.com seems to be a generic one that can cover both configurations.
Any other way to find in advance (couple of days) which one it will be?
Mainly an issue of picking up a seat. What shows up as 7D is likely 7A if on a "classic" pod. 6D if on a new one.
Economy seat map always shows old configuration. No matter which date over the whole week.
Mar 7, 2016, 5:32 am
#730
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ottawa
Programs: AC SE*MM/S100K; HHonors Diamond; a bunch of others at various levels!
Posts: 1,580
In the Wiki, thee is a post from last August with the planned service dates for the refurbished aircraft on specific routes. Have there been any updates to this?
I am specifically interested in YUL-CDG (I'm flying on 12 March). The Wiki shows the 450-seater 777-300ER (J28W24Y398) on this route as of 4 March. However, the seat maps are showing the 400-seater 777-300ER (J40W24Y336) all this week for AC870. Also, none of the 77W (J28) versions have been refurbished, according to the Wiki.
Anyone have experience in the last couple of days on this route as to which of the many versions of the 77W is flying now?
I am specifically interested in YUL-CDG (I'm flying on 12 March). The Wiki shows the 450-seater 777-300ER (J28W24Y398) on this route as of 4 March. However, the seat maps are showing the 400-seater 777-300ER (J40W24Y336) all this week for AC870. Also, none of the 77W (J28) versions have been refurbished, according to the Wiki.
Anyone have experience in the last couple of days on this route as to which of the many versions of the 77W is flying now?
Mar 7, 2016, 9:22 pm
#731
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: AC Million Miler & long time SE; StarwoodPlat for 10+ yrs & lifetime Gold; Hilton Honours Diamond; IC Ambassador; AMEX Plat;Avis Presidents Club; Airmiles GOLD; and just about everything else!
Programs: aeroplan & 25+year loyalty
Posts: 3,822
This "enhancement" has been in the works for almost a year. Nothing new and totally expected.
However it is a total devaluation of status perks such as e-ups.
I see little reason to kill myself or my budget to try to maintain SE status even though I am sitting at over 32,000 AQM since Jan 1 but AQD are only some 4K.
Better strategy is to find P/Z deals or book PYs (if you can find them which presumably will be easier next yr).
Aeroplan status is on life support.
However it is a total devaluation of status perks such as e-ups.
I see little reason to kill myself or my budget to try to maintain SE status even though I am sitting at over 32,000 AQM since Jan 1 but AQD are only some 4K.
Better strategy is to find P/Z deals or book PYs (if you can find them which presumably will be easier next yr).
Aeroplan status is on life support.
Mar 7, 2016, 11:15 pm
#732
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: YEG
Programs: AC*SE, Marriott Plat, Natl Exec, NEXUS
Posts: 437
Looks like 706 is done - scheduled to leave HKG tomorrow. Looks like 705 will be replacing it. The 77L conversion is down to a 34 day turnaround.
For those of you interested, I did a quick calculation of where it's all at.
For the 77L's, 3 of the 6 are done. If the 34 days hold, the conversion will all be complete by June 19. All the 77L's flying will be the new product by May 16 (when the last one goes in for conversion).
For the 77W (non-HD), 6 of 12 are complete. If the 37 days hold, the conversion will all be done on June 16. All the 77W's flying will be the new product by May 10 (when the last one goes in for conversion).
Then, the HD's would be done after that. I would expect it would only be a few days each, since only the J product is being replaced. This would put total completion in early July.
For those of you interested, I did a quick calculation of where it's all at.
For the 77L's, 3 of the 6 are done. If the 34 days hold, the conversion will all be complete by June 19. All the 77L's flying will be the new product by May 16 (when the last one goes in for conversion).
For the 77W (non-HD), 6 of 12 are complete. If the 37 days hold, the conversion will all be done on June 16. All the 77W's flying will be the new product by May 10 (when the last one goes in for conversion).
Then, the HD's would be done after that. I would expect it would only be a few days each, since only the J product is being replaced. This would put total completion in early July.
Last edited by YEGTigger; Mar 7, 2016 at 11:23 pm
Mar 7, 2016, 11:17 pm
#733
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: YEG
Programs: AC*SE, Marriott Plat, Natl Exec, NEXUS
Posts: 437
Hi All,
So I understand correctly. We will be flying AC 847 MUC-YYZ June 25, 2016. It is a 777-2LR.
Safe to assume this aircraft will have the updated J like that of the new 787?
The seating chart is showing as two class, but reading through this thread it appears all the refurb should be completed by then.
If this is true, and we are traveling as a couple, best to take two in the middle I presume. Also, any objections to 1D/1G? If like United the center partition comes down for conversation. I see it is close to the galley and not sure if we would be bothered.
Any clarification and help would be much appreciated. This is our first time with AC Business -- looks like a solid product. We typically fly Lufthansa or United J, but if we do in fact have the refurb J suites, it appears these are nicer...?
Many thanks,
Andrew
So I understand correctly. We will be flying AC 847 MUC-YYZ June 25, 2016. It is a 777-2LR.
Safe to assume this aircraft will have the updated J like that of the new 787?
The seating chart is showing as two class, but reading through this thread it appears all the refurb should be completed by then.
If this is true, and we are traveling as a couple, best to take two in the middle I presume. Also, any objections to 1D/1G? If like United the center partition comes down for conversation. I see it is close to the galley and not sure if we would be bothered.
Any clarification and help would be much appreciated. This is our first time with AC Business -- looks like a solid product. We typically fly Lufthansa or United J, but if we do in fact have the refurb J suites, it appears these are nicer...?
Many thanks,
Andrew
Mar 10, 2016, 2:03 am
#734
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Toronto
Programs: HGP Globalist, SPG P100, Hilton Dia
Posts: 425
Just got off AC15 on C-FIUR (77W). Have to say that I am impressed with the new seat. Guess there was some last minute plane swap due to the refurbishment schedule! Also, I saw C-FNNH just flew back as AC16. Can someone please update the wikipost?
