New PE fare classes are out!

Old Feb 14, 14, 2:00 pm
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New PE fare classes are out!

I just logged in my eUpgrade account and noticed this:



So, O fares have the same eUpgrade requirements as Latitude now. E, N become discounted (I assume) PE fares and have the same requirements as Flex.

I was able to confirm all my upgrades on my trip to HKG next week since I booked O class when that was the only one available.

Curious about the accrual rules (and price!) for these...

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Old Feb 14, 14, 2:04 pm
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Seems only SEs will be able to upgrade E,N fares according to eUp website.
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Old Feb 14, 14, 2:12 pm
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And the reason why FTers have been booking PE fares has mostly been elimintated...

Requiring the same amount of upgrade credits for E and N fares as for Flex fares doesnt exactly encourage FFers to buy PE fares - its not as if PE fares are particularly cheap, though I guess it makes some sense when comparing the discounted PE fares on TPAC routes with the over-inflated Flex fares on TATL routes.

In any case I doubt many pax will buy fully-flexible PE fares (O).
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Old Feb 14, 14, 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Jasper2009 View Post
In any case I doubt many pax will buy fully-flexible PE fares (O).
Agreed...Although it will be interesting to see where O will be positioned relative to Y and B. Not sure what the advantage of O will be over Y/B if O is indeed fully flexible PE?

It seems the fares have not been loaded in the res system yet.
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Old Feb 14, 14, 2:26 pm
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Originally Posted by gabdusch View Post
Agreed...Although it will be interesting to see where O will be positioned relative to Y and B. Not sure what the advantage of O will be over Y/B if O is indeed fully flexible PE?

It seems the fares have not been loaded in the res system yet.
If I had to guess Id say most markets will have at least two different O fares:

- one fully-refundable O fare which requires a return trip (and possibly min. stay / Sat. night) and
- one fully-refundable O fare which can be used for one-way bookings (no restrictions whatsoever)

The former would likely be priced somewhere between B and Y while the latter would be priced above Y.
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Old Feb 14, 14, 2:40 pm
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Given that only O is being sold right now, and O is instantly upgradeable, could book some cheap J fares right now and not need a whole lot of eupgrade credits.
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Old Feb 14, 14, 2:44 pm
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Q: From Mar 1, can E50K and E75K upgrade 'O' and 'B' fares using their e-upgrade credits, without paying $500/$750?
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Old Feb 14, 14, 2:52 pm
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Originally Posted by aircanada_loyal View Post
Q: From Mar 1, can E50K and E75K upgrade 'O' and 'B' fares using their e-upgrade credits, without paying $500/$750?
I think PE fares are exempt from the co-pay.
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Old Feb 14, 14, 3:06 pm
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Thanks OP, just upgraded all my flights for HKG and CDG. Got those single seats everywhere.
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Old Feb 14, 14, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by gabdusch View Post
Seems only SEs will be able to upgrade E,N fares according to eUp website.
I know that AC really doesn't like E75s / E50s but they seem to be taking it to extremes if this is the case.

So an E75 will be able to upgrade a Flex fare (with the crazy $750 co-pay of course) but not a PE fare booked in E or N?
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Old Feb 14, 14, 3:47 pm
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I'm guessing that the current fares will be the "new normal" for E,N and we'll be seeing much higher O fares shortly. Time to book your affordable O fares while you still can!
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Originally Posted by gabdusch View Post
I was able to confirm all my upgrades on my trip to HKG next week since I booked O class when that was the only one available.
Nice! Thank you gabdusch! I was also able to confirm an upgrade later in the spring.

Now let's just wait for AC to change all the rules on us, re-map an O booking to something else, the eUps not to work properly, to have to call in, etc., etc. Noooo, that would never happen.
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Old Feb 14, 14, 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Tractor Boy View Post
I know that AC really doesn't like E75s / E50s but they seem to be taking it to extremes if this is the case.

So an E75 will be able to upgrade a Flex fare (with the crazy $750 co-pay of course) but not a PE fare booked in E or N?
Agree. I was expecting the E75 and E50 to have to pay for the co-pay on the E and N fare, but not be able to upgrade at all is a first one...
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Old Feb 14, 14, 4:48 pm
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Doing a little happy dance here. 3 TATL tickets booked and cleared today, with a bunch more to go!
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Old Feb 14, 14, 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by rehoult View Post
Doing a little happy dance here. 3 TATL tickets booked and cleared today, with a bunch more to go!
Are there any good TATL PE fares out there?
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