Less Threshold eUpgrades in 2013
Nov 12, 2012 | 6:53 am
#1
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Location: Canada/US
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Less Threshold eUpgrades in 2013
Has anyone noticed that threshold rewards of eupgrades is going to drop in 2013?
Now: https://www.aircanada.com/en/aeropla...eupgrades.html
2013: http://www.aircanada.com/en/aeroplan...threshold.html
Highlights:
* Elites get 50% less eupgrades at 60K threshold
* SEs get about 20% less eupgrades
* 300K and 400K mile threshold is now 40 eupgrades rather than 30
I hope AC lowers the eupgrade requirements for 2013 too but I highly doubt it.
I don't like the drastic lowering of eupgrades. But I guess if you choose eupgrades for all your benefits in SE, you start off with 5 more than 2012.
Does this affect you?
Now: https://www.aircanada.com/en/aeropla...eupgrades.html
2013: http://www.aircanada.com/en/aeroplan...threshold.html
Highlights:
* Elites get 50% less eupgrades at 60K threshold
* SEs get about 20% less eupgrades
* 300K and 400K mile threshold is now 40 eupgrades rather than 30
I hope AC lowers the eupgrade requirements for 2013 too but I highly doubt it.
I don't like the drastic lowering of eupgrades. But I guess if you choose eupgrades for all your benefits in SE, you start off with 5 more than 2012.
Does this affect you?
Nov 12, 2012 | 7:16 am
#2
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Location: YUL
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SE's only get 12 credits and on top of that only 2 ore than Elite50/75K?
And then Threshold Gifts are given to Elite50/75K before SE's?
Unless the amount of credits is coming down from 14/17 for O/S credits one way this will be another kick in the balls.
And if they dont just means another Z/P fare on another operator because of the AC games.
They must be dropping the required credits requirements.
And then Threshold Gifts are given to Elite50/75K before SE's?
Unless the amount of credits is coming down from 14/17 for O/S credits one way this will be another kick in the balls.
And if they dont just means another Z/P fare on another operator because of the AC games.
They must be dropping the required credits requirements.
Nov 12, 2012 | 7:22 am
#3
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Surely you jest?
Actually, they have dropped the requirements for certain flights by adding an under-500 mile category but they've dramatically increased them for ultra long haul flights. The details are here.
Actually, they have dropped the requirements for certain flights by adding an under-500 mile category but they've dramatically increased them for ultra long haul flights. The details are here.
Nov 12, 2012 | 7:29 am
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I cannot imagine that happening.
Also, note that the number of credits you get initially has gone up a bit, so the decrease is not huge.
Still, my guess is, they want to cut down on upgrades on Tango Plus. Probably too many credits chasing to few seats, hence some unhappiness in the lower ranks. They want you to spend more, on more expensive fares.
Or in other words, the threshold for bottom feeders has just been moved up.
Also, note that the number of credits you get initially has gone up a bit, so the decrease is not huge.
Still, my guess is, they want to cut down on upgrades on Tango Plus. Probably too many credits chasing to few seats, hence some unhappiness in the lower ranks. They want you to spend more, on more expensive fares.
Or in other words, the threshold for bottom feeders has just been moved up.
Nov 12, 2012 | 7:33 am
#5
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@Tax Dude Thanks for the link to the new eupgrade table. I should've added that. Though the new table doesn't benefit since i usually book non-M Tango Plus and flights less than 500 miles have usually been on non-AC metal or a DASH-8.
Interesting how they've added a new 11001 mi + level.
@Stranger i only noticed a 5 eupgrade increase at initial. How are you calculating it as not huge?
Interesting how they've added a new 11001 mi + level.
@Stranger i only noticed a 5 eupgrade increase at initial. How are you calculating it as not huge?
Nov 12, 2012 | 7:53 am
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Surely you jest?
Actually, they have dropped the requirements for certain flights by adding an under-500 mile category but they've dramatically increased them for ultra long haul flights. The details are here.
Actually, they have dropped the requirements for certain flights by adding an under-500 mile category but they've dramatically increased them for ultra long haul flights. The details are here.
Nov 12, 2012 | 9:08 am
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Nov 12, 2012 | 9:26 am
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Only people traveling from Asia to South America on AC perhaps?
Anyway, what would be the rationale/motivation for them to introduce this category?
Nov 12, 2012 | 9:33 am
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I assume if you did want to go from St John's to Sydney, you would need the requisite credits for the 3131 domestic miles YYT to YVR (4 or 10 for T+), plus the 12 or 17 credits required for the YVR-SYD leg?
Nov 12, 2012 | 10:18 am
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Except you can't get from YYT to SYD on an 'international' flight
I assume if you did want to go from St John's to Sydney, you would need the requisite credits for the 3131 domestic miles YYT to YVR (4 or 10 for T+), plus the 12 or 17 credits required for the YVR-SYD leg?
I assume if you did want to go from St John's to Sydney, you would need the requisite credits for the 3131 domestic miles YYT to YVR (4 or 10 for T+), plus the 12 or 17 credits required for the YVR-SYD leg?
Nov 12, 2012 | 10:53 am
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Makes sense. How vindictive of them to introduce this to get even with half a dozen nutcases who would fly LHR-SYD on AC though Canada...
Seems the culture never changes. Still way too many too expensive middle managers trying to find excuses to justify their existence?
Seems the culture never changes. Still way too many too expensive middle managers trying to find excuses to justify their existence?